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  • Rogerbutthead
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    • Jul 2006
    • 3816

    So is this seller probably a scam?



    The price seems lower than what I have seen M1 Garands go for, then I look at his other offerings and their prices seem low too, the BINs included.

    The background on all the guns are different too, which has been pointed out to me as a sign of a fraudster who is using pics from other sellers.

    So how many of you would chance a buy on this seller?

    I am guessing none.
  • #2
    ir0nclash86
    Veteran Member
    • May 2010
    • 3601

    Yeah thats sketchy from all the different backgrounds alone. You can do a reverse image search and see where the pictures came from possibly

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    • #3
      The Gleam
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2011
      • 12328

      Scammer. Searching every one of his auction's photos with 'Search with with Google Lens' identifies the exact photo found on several unrelated outskirts of the internet, in areas that would have no connection to any one individual.

      A couple were connected to past items sold elsewhere or very old listings.

      Being that he is new in Gunbroker with an unimaginitive and bland username - highly likely a scammer. Report him to Gunbroker and they'll give him the boot if warranted.

      More than one of those are tied to old listings (sold) on 'Texas Gun Trader'.

      Meanwhile, the Marlin 336 is from a post on a for-sale site in Alberta, Canada.

      So he's in Texas AND Canada?

      He's even copying the text from those other ads for his placements on Gunbroker. No very couth or creative this one. Rather easy to spot he's up to no good.

      The Marlin 1895 photo was found on 'truegunvalue.com'

      https://texasguntrader.com/category/...r-300-BLK.html

      https://texasguntrader.com/category/...enelli-M4.html

      https://www.gunpost.ca/firearms/rifl...lin-336w-30-30

      https://truegunvalue.com/rifle/marli...l-value/used/2


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      Last edited by The Gleam; 11-11-2023, 8:04 PM.
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      Originally posted by Librarian
      What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

      If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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      • #4
        SkyHawk
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        • Sep 2012
        • 23500

        scam. perhaps a hacked account. Only feedback is as a buyer from 2018.

        The Benelli M4 pics came from here


        Every gun he has for sale has s different background
        Click here for my iTrader Feedback thread: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...r-feedback-100

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        • #5
          whatmeworry
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 706

          Unfortunately the garand was sold.
          Originally posted by Kestryll
          ......yes I'm an idiot

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          • #6
            The Gleam
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            • Feb 2011
            • 12328

            Originally posted by whatmeworry
            Unfortunately the garand was sold.
            Someone got a great price on something they'll never get.

            I can hear it now: "No problem bro, you can pay me with Zelle".

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            Originally posted by Librarian
            What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

            If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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            • #7
              The Gleam
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2011
              • 12328

              Originally posted by whatmeworry
              Unfortunately the garand was sold.
              Too bad you missed your chance on a great deal - but wait - he listed another one! Same price! Grab it quick, before it gets away!

              And he has added 2 more new auctions along with it.

              I really like how all his descriptions are scraped from the same places he stole the photos, he only runs auctions with a 3-Day time-frame (of course) and ever description ends with:

              "Interested Text (564) 516-4867 "

              You can bet every bit of communication will only ever be by text, until the burner phone is no longer needed.

              His location says Wirtz, Virginia, but that's a Washington State area code.

              And the source material for his auctions originate from obscure gun classified-websites as far and wide as Texas, Florida, California, and Canada - with a few photos posted in forums on the internet or other gun-info only websites.

              I think these scammers have gotten wise to the fact that Gunbroker staff doesn't work weekends, doesn't do a thing about customer service from end of day Friday through to Monday morning - the reason for the 3-day auction time frame, which NOBODY does, as you would want to maximize your number of bids, so a week or more is the most logical minimum you would run an auction.

              https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1019107800


              https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search...ellers=3795325

              And once that Garand sold by Buy-it-Now, he posted another within minutes.

              https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1019124516

              He's posting as fast as he can sell them.

              His latest was photos of a Browning BLR stolen from an ad on Gunsinternational:

              https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1019112030


              https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...n_id=102498041

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              Last edited by The Gleam; 11-12-2023, 3:23 PM.
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              Originally posted by Librarian
              What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

              If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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              • #8
                Rogerbutthead
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2006
                • 3816

                You can't contact the buyers either - before or after the auction ends.

                Really does look like he is taking candy from babies.

                Poor fools.

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                • #9
                  SkyHawk
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 23500

                  Gunbroker also makes it a huge hassle to report these, like not even worth it hassle.

                  They need to offer a "report listing" link on every listing. The fact that they don't tells me they don't care if buyers get scammed.
                  Click here for my iTrader Feedback thread: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...r-feedback-100

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                  • #10
                    The Gleam
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 12328

                    Originally posted by SkyHawk
                    Gunbroker also makes it a huge hassle to report these, like not even worth it hassle.

                    They need to offer a "report listing" link on every listing. The fact that they don't tells me they don't care if buyers get scammed.
                    Agree - I also don't think they care.

                    For what it's worth, I sent details/notice to their 'Support' feature earlier today, and again just now.

                    I'm sure it's falling on deaf bots, and a human at Gunbroker won't even give it a smerk until sometime tomorrow around 3:00PM at the earliest - if at all.

                    It's odd for a publicly traded company (Ammo, Inc./POWW) to be so obtuse and aloof about their lousy customer service, when I think they would want to encourage investors they are doing all they can to run a good product, and head such potential legal concerns off at the pass.

                    Yet their stock price history says it all.

                    Still, maybe they have a good Cyberliability and/or Directors and Officers insurance policies in place, so with confidence in that, they just don't care, backed by enough free cash-flow and investor's dollars to pay off the likelihood of claims falling under the projected likely (minimum) $150,000 retention when things go wrong.

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                    Originally posted by Librarian
                    What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                    If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                    • #11
                      hermosabeach
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                      • Feb 2009
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                      I thought it would be this thread would be about this member here





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                      • #12
                        The Gleam
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 12328

                        Sure enough - didn't get an email reply from Gunbroker until just a little before 3:00pm today thanking me for alerting them to it, and they would investigate.

                        Seller now booted/no account found.

                        But it appears he scammed at least several buyers over the weekend, and apparently knows that's when to do it - while Gunbroker staff are not watching the store - running 3-day auctions with low 'Buy-it-Now' pricing to hook a few sucker-fish.

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                        Originally posted by Librarian
                        What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                        If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                        • #13
                          CGZ
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                          • Nov 2014
                          • 990

                          The auction only takes credit card for payment, so at least those scammed have an easier method to get refunded.

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                          • #14
                            Rogerbutthead
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 3816

                            At least four buyers caught on that it was a scam.

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                            • #15
                              sbo80
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                              • Apr 2014
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                              Originally posted by The Gleam
                              His location says Wirtz, Virginia, but that's a Washington State area code.
                              I hate scammers - but that's not a good metric. My area code hasn't matched the state I lived in, for 15 years.

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