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  • Emtmilam
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2022
    • 1

    Firearm Purchase Delay

    Hey all, I was just recently told that my purchase was delayed. And I would get a letter explaining. I got my letter from the DOJ today, and it says that my information came up regarding a stolen firearm record. But has not been confirmed with fingerprint comparison. I?m very confused. I?ve never had anything stolen nor have I ever stolen anything. Are they saying that they have prints of someone and are just waiting to run against mine to rule me out? The dealer didn?t have any information, and this is all new to me. Any help would be great.
  • #2
    CGZ
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 992

    Happened to a buddy of mine recently. He got a all clear a couple weeks later. Probably some kind of system error, or some other bureaucratic mistake.

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    • #3
      homelessdude
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Aug 2013
      • 2146

      Happen to me and went the 30 days.

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      • #4
        The Gleam
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2011
        • 13827

        The letter is using generalized language to gaslight gunowners instead of admitting they are infringing on your civil-rights.

        Highly unlikely that the gun you bought is/was a stolen gun, as that's just an excuse they concocted and include in the phrasing of their stalling letter to cover for their laziness and ineptitude, if not intentionally delaying purchases out of spite and animosity toward gun owners.

        That's not a conspiracy theory; plenty past discussion on this of frequent long-time buyers with never an issue, even CCW holders and LEO, suddenly getting the erroneous 'delayed' letter.

        You are now another victim of a corrupt, anti-2nd Amendment State Attorney General.

        A right delayed is a right denied.

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        Last edited by The Gleam; 10-27-2023, 9:17 PM.
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        Originally posted by Librarian
        What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

        If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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        • #5
          The Gleam
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2011
          • 13827

          Originally posted by CGZ
          Happened to a buddy of mine recently. He got a all clear a couple weeks later. Probably some kind of system error, or some other bureaucratic mistake.
          Intentional hostility.

          The mistake was committed by California voters.

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          Originally posted by Librarian
          What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

          If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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          • #6
            ohsmily
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2005
            • 8997

            You misread the letter like so many do. It says the delay is due to your information identifying with a record OR a stolen firearm. Rest assured, it is your record that's the problem, not a stolen firearm. Probably an old arrest, even if it has never posed a problem before.

            Get a copy of your rap sheet.
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            • #7
              The Gleam
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2011
              • 13827

              Originally posted by ohsmily
              You misread the letter like so many do. It says the delay is due to your information identifying with a record OR a stolen firearm. Rest assured, it is your record that's the problem, not a stolen firearm. Probably an old arrest, even if it has never posed a problem before.

              Get a copy of your rap sheet.
              Correct about the letter - a gaslighting trope for lack of a good reason for the delay.

              As for the record issue, more often it's been nothing at all, as so often has been proven. It's a delay letter, not a denial letter.

              And a scam letter at that.

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              Originally posted by Librarian
              What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

              If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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              • #8
                Russian Bot
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2021
                • 521

                Do they deliver on undetermined?

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                • #9
                  Jeepergeo
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 3507

                  Don't answer the door wearing a robe and memorize your attorney's phone number.
                  Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association
                  Life Member, California Rifle and Pistol Association

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                  • #10
                    Dan_Eastvale
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 10907

                    Watch out for un requested "plumbers" coming to your door

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                    • #11
                      The Gleam
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 13827

                      Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
                      Watch out for un requested "plumbers" coming to your door
                      Ha ha. Good one.

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                      Originally posted by Librarian
                      What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                      If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                      • #12
                        Livermore-Dad
                        Junior Member
                        • Jan 2024
                        • 7

                        This is interesting got the same letter today. This is after getting a letter from the AG confirming my right to own, the successful acquisition of my FFL-03 and COE..

                        Feels odd, what do they do differently when actually buying a firearm, then going through the other processes?

                        FFL said that they have a LEO that runs into this constantly as well.. Odd

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                        • #13
                          foothillman
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2017
                          • 1202

                          Simple.
                          CADOJ can do what they want with no oversight or penalty for delay.

                          Delay/Undetermined is NOT Denied.
                          Purchase at a FFL that delivers on Undetermined.

                          17. Can my driving record prevent me from purchasing a firearm?

                          Yes. If you have a conviction for a firearms-prohibiting offense, such as felony drunk driving, your driving record would affect your ability to purchase a firearm. Furthermore, your driver's license must be valid. A revocation, outstanding ticket, or fine may cause your license to be invalid.

                          34. I was arrested for a crime several years ago but no charges were filed against me. Can this affect my ability to purchase a firearm or to obtain a firearms license or permit?

                          An arrest on your criminal history record without any disposition information explaining the outcome of the arrest may affect your ability to purchase a firearm or to obtain a firearms license or permit. If you are applying for a license or permit involving the possession of a firearm or dangerous weapon and the Department cannot determine the outcome of the arrest, you must first correct or complete the information in your criminal history record before the Department may issue you the license or permit. If you are trying to purchase a firearm and the Department cannot ascertain the outcome of the arrest and you do not correct or complete the information on your criminal history record, the decision whether to sell you the firearm rests with the firearms dealer. For further information on how to correct or complete the information on your criminal history record, please see https://oag.ca.gov/fingerprints/security_faq#incorrect


                          Who is prohibited from owning or possessing firearms?

                          11. Any person who has a conviction for any misdemeanor listed in Penal Code section 29805 or for any felony, or is addicted to the use of any narcotic drug, or has been held involuntarily as a danger to self or others pursuant to Welfare and Institutions Code section 8103 is prohibited from buying, owning, or possessing firearms or ammunition. There are also prohibitions based on mental conditions, domestic restraining/protective orders, conditions of probation, and specific offenses committed as a juvenile. A list of prohibited categories is available on the Bureau of Firearms website.

                          (Pen. Code, ?? 29800, 29805, 29815, 29820, 29825, 29855, 29860, 29900, 29905, 30305; Welf. & Inst. Code, ?? 8100-8103; 18 U.S.C. ? 922, subd. (g), 27 C.F.R. ? 478.22.)
                          Denied can be from.....
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                          • #14
                            Deelayed
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2020
                            • 713

                            1. Be patient. Could be 30+ days
                            2. Ask the establishment you purchased from if they release on undetermined. If not search for one that does for when your purchase is refunded (minus dros fee )
                            3.expose the name of the business that refused to give you your property so that others don't waste time with them..
                            4. Purchase another firearm and see what happens then let us know.. .

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