Hey all, I was just recently told that my purchase was delayed. And I would get a letter explaining. I got my letter from the DOJ today, and it says that my information came up regarding a stolen firearm record. But has not been confirmed with fingerprint comparison. I?m very confused. I?ve never had anything stolen nor have I ever stolen anything. Are they saying that they have prints of someone and are just waiting to run against mine to rule me out? The dealer didn?t have any information, and this is all new to me. Any help would be great.
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Happen to me and went the 30 days.Comment
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The letter is using generalized language to gaslight gunowners instead of admitting they are infringing on your civil-rights.
Highly unlikely that the gun you bought is/was a stolen gun, as that's just an excuse they concocted and include in the phrasing of their stalling letter to cover for their laziness and ineptitude, if not intentionally delaying purchases out of spite and animosity toward gun owners.
That's not a conspiracy theory; plenty past discussion on this of frequent long-time buyers with never an issue, even CCW holders and LEO, suddenly getting the erroneous 'delayed' letter.
You are now another victim of a corrupt, anti-2nd Amendment State Attorney General.
A right delayed is a right denied.
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Originally posted by LibrarianWhat compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)
If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?Comment
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Originally posted by LibrarianWhat compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)
If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?Comment
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You misread the letter like so many do. It says the delay is due to your information identifying with a record OR a stolen firearm. Rest assured, it is your record that's the problem, not a stolen firearm. Probably an old arrest, even if it has never posed a problem before.
Get a copy of your rap sheet.Expert firearms attorney: https://www.rwslaw.com/team/adam-j-richards/
Check out https://www.firearmsunknown.com/. Support a good calgunner local to San Diego.Comment
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Correct about the letter - a gaslighting trope for lack of a good reason for the delay.You misread the letter like so many do. It says the delay is due to your information identifying with a record OR a stolen firearm. Rest assured, it is your record that's the problem, not a stolen firearm. Probably an old arrest, even if it has never posed a problem before.
Get a copy of your rap sheet.
As for the record issue, more often it's been nothing at all, as so often has been proven. It's a delay letter, not a denial letter.
And a scam letter at that.
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Originally posted by LibrarianWhat compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)
If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?Comment
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Do they deliver on undetermined?Comment
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Watch out for un requested "plumbers" coming to your doorComment
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Originally posted by LibrarianWhat compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)
If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?Comment
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This is interesting got the same letter today. This is after getting a letter from the AG confirming my right to own, the successful acquisition of my FFL-03 and COE..
Feels odd, what do they do differently when actually buying a firearm, then going through the other processes?
FFL said that they have a LEO that runs into this constantly as well.. OddComment
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Simple.
CADOJ can do what they want with no oversight or penalty for delay.
Delay/Undetermined is NOT Denied.
Purchase at a FFL that delivers on Undetermined.
17. Can my driving record prevent me from purchasing a firearm?
Yes. If you have a conviction for a firearms-prohibiting offense, such as felony drunk driving, your driving record would affect your ability to purchase a firearm. Furthermore, your driver's license must be valid. A revocation, outstanding ticket, or fine may cause your license to be invalid.
34. I was arrested for a crime several years ago but no charges were filed against me. Can this affect my ability to purchase a firearm or to obtain a firearms license or permit?
An arrest on your criminal history record without any disposition information explaining the outcome of the arrest may affect your ability to purchase a firearm or to obtain a firearms license or permit. If you are applying for a license or permit involving the possession of a firearm or dangerous weapon and the Department cannot determine the outcome of the arrest, you must first correct or complete the information in your criminal history record before the Department may issue you the license or permit. If you are trying to purchase a firearm and the Department cannot ascertain the outcome of the arrest and you do not correct or complete the information on your criminal history record, the decision whether to sell you the firearm rests with the firearms dealer. For further information on how to correct or complete the information on your criminal history record, please see https://oag.ca.gov/fingerprints/security_faq#incorrect
Denied can be from.....Who is prohibited from owning or possessing firearms?
11. Any person who has a conviction for any misdemeanor listed in Penal Code section 29805 or for any felony, or is addicted to the use of any narcotic drug, or has been held involuntarily as a danger to self or others pursuant to Welfare and Institutions Code section 8103 is prohibited from buying, owning, or possessing firearms or ammunition. There are also prohibitions based on mental conditions, domestic restraining/protective orders, conditions of probation, and specific offenses committed as a juvenile. A list of prohibited categories is available on the Bureau of Firearms website.
(Pen. Code, ?? 29800, 29805, 29815, 29820, 29825, 29855, 29860, 29900, 29905, 30305; Welf. & Inst. Code, ?? 8100-8103; 18 U.S.C. ? 922, subd. (g), 27 C.F.R. ? 478.22.)
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1. Be patient. Could be 30+ days
2. Ask the establishment you purchased from if they release on undetermined. If not search for one that does for when your purchase is refunded (minus dros fee )
3.expose the name of the business that refused to give you your property so that others don't waste time with them..
4. Purchase another firearm and see what happens then let us know.. .Comment
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