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  • krb
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2016
    • 1089

    Best Body Armor

    Hi everyone.

    I've been thinking for a while of purchasing body armor. Something to put in the car in case say traffic is stopped and bad guys are coming around like a George Floyd (?) situation. Or if similarly riots occur for a home defense situation.

    What do you think is the best lightest level IV armor that I could store in a trunk and that wouldn't deteriorate? I figure in such a situation I would not be wearing it 12h a day. So level IV to include at least most rifle rounds, assume no 30.06, as light as possible? And something that will not deteriorate if left in the car for a long time. Does ceramic stay good forever? Or like soft armor would I need to replace every few years? I'd like something light like ceramic, not heavy.

    What would you recommend? LA Police Gear? AR500?

    I'm looking at Safelife now.

    TIA!
  • #2
    momoney1970
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2021
    • 95

    I would also like to know! watched some youtube videos but I need some more input, dont have time to do a lot of research.

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    • #3
      madland
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 1239



      Here you go. Over 42 pages and 1600+ responses.
      Have fun..good luck!!

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      • #4
        krb
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2016
        • 1089

        Originally posted by madland
        https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...d.php?t=498169

        Here you go. Over 42 pages and 1600+ responses.
        Have fun..good luck!!
        I don't think I'm prepared to go through 42 pages and >1600 responses! Plus the most current response is >8Y old so I don't think the knowledge as to specifically what to buy is relevant anymore. 8Y is a lot of time and I bet there's a lot of new technology. The safelife stuff looks cutting edge.

        Still... looking to buy some armor and looking for the braintrust to recommend what's current.

        TIA!

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        • #5
          colossians323
          Crusader for the truth!
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 21637

          bought one of RTS tactical ceramic plate kits for my wife. Good value and way lighter than my ar500 with trauma plates



          Not following Calis laws as close as I used to, I thought Gavin just signed a law, outlawing civilians from having body armor?

          ETA, holy cow have their prices gone up
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          • #6
            krb
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2016
            • 1089

            Originally posted by krb
            I don't think I'm prepared to go through 42 pages and >1600 responses! Plus the most current response is >8Y old so I don't think the knowledge as to specifically what to buy is relevant anymore. 8Y is a lot of time and I bet there's a lot of new technology. The safelife stuff looks cutting edge.

            Still... looking to buy some armor and looking for the braintrust to recommend what's current.

            TIA!
            So sorry! I saw the wrong page! Still... not prepared to go through 42 pp! Braintrust?

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            • #7
              sigstroker
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2009
              • 19655

              Afaik there's only one maker of flexible rifle rated armor, so you're probably looking at plates in a plate carrier. If you get ceramic similar to military, you prob don't have to be worried about heat. It was used in Iraqistan, which is generally hotter than most of kali.

              You can spend 1500-ish on military or near military grade stuff, or 300 on chinese stuff. The chinese doesn't have official NIJ certification, but guys like Mrgunsngear blow holes in it on youtube, so it's not complete bunk. The chinese level IV stuff is probably going to be a hybrid ceramic/plastic lamination that performs similar to military stuff. How similar, I don't know.

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              • #8
                enorbit3
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 2655

                Idk if it's the best. But here's an option. Level 4. Lightweight. Not cheap.

                Lightweight Level IV SAPI cut armor plates, 5.1 lbs each, stop multiple 5.56 and 7.62 rounds. Cordura wrap, water-resistant. Sold as a front and back set.


                Or you can consider the L210. Popular choice. Inexpensive.

                10x12 shooter cut ceramic threat plate, 4.7 lbs, 0.54" thick. Defends against 5.56 M193, M855, M855A1, 7.62 M67, M43. Fits medium-large carriers. US shipping restrictions apply.
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                • #9
                  tradecraft
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 4625

                  For a trunk setup, I like the Hesco 4800 (not the 4800LV).
                  Link to my feedback: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...ser-tradecraft

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                  • #10
                    krb
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 1089

                    Originally posted by enorbit3
                    Idk if it's the best. But here's an option. Level 4. Lightweight. Not cheap.

                    Lightweight Level IV SAPI cut armor plates, 5.1 lbs each, stop multiple 5.56 and 7.62 rounds. Cordura wrap, water-resistant. Sold as a front and back set.


                    Or you can consider the L210. Popular choice. Inexpensive.

                    https://www.trex-arms.com/store/Hesc...eat-Plate-Set/
                    YIKES !!! $2500 plates only!!!

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                    • #11
                      L.A. Saiga
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 1783

                      Originally posted by krb
                      YIKES !!! $2500 plates only!!!
                      *aand that's why you go through 42 pages to learn about body armor and what other (perhaps more affordable) options you have.

                      Good luck OP!

                      Cheers
                      Here's my iTrader feedback: (iTrader score is 244. I have ZERO negative feedback) https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...user-l-a-saiga

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                      • #12
                        twinfin
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 1215

                        Originally posted by krb
                        Hi everyone.

                        I've been thinking for a while of purchasing body armor. Something to put in the car in case say traffic is stopped and bad guys are coming around like a George Floyd (?) situation. Or if similarly riots occur for a home defense situation.
                        For the situations you describe, why not level IIIA soft body armor? Based on my reading of past events of civil unrest, handguns are by far, the threat to be concerned about.

                        A properly fitted level IIIA vest will give you much more body coverage than a rifle rated plate which covers a much smaller surface area with zero side of body protection. This trade-off between rifle vs. pistol, small area of coverage vs. large area of coverage needs to be carefully weighed.

                        Do not underestimate the decrease in protection when using a rifle plate to go up against a handgun which is by far, the most likely threat in the scenario you presented.

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                        • #13
                          hermosabeach
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 19495

                          My suggestion - grey man


                          Soft armor that disappears under a shirt.


                          Chaos happened - now can you blend away?


                          Do you look like a target or invisible?




                          Soft armor covers more of you. If you are not sitting, you can get longer armor.

                          The odds of a center of plate hit with an AR versus some hit in an arm, leg or gut......



                          A dark hoodie is good too. Armor on, hoodie on, hoodie up, walk away.



                          I wore soft armor in a 4 day class. A few cops in the class. I know the instructor and he knew from lunch that I had armor as I stripped down.



                          During the failure drill training - head / pelvis transition drills he mentioned armor. He asked if anyone was wearing a vest in class? Did anyone notice the student wearing armor? No one had noticed my vest.


                          Same with jury duty, no one noticed my vest.



                          Be the grey man. Soft armor for a lot more coverage area than a plate.
                          Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                          Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                          Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                          Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                          (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                          • #14
                            krb
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2016
                            • 1089

                            Originally posted by twinfin
                            For the situations you describe, why not level IIIA soft body armor? Based on my reading of past events of civil unrest, handguns are by far, the threat to be concerned about.

                            A properly fitted level IIIA vest will give you much more body coverage than a rifle rated plate which covers a much smaller surface area with zero side of body protection. This trade-off between rifle vs. pistol, small area of coverage vs. large area of coverage needs to be carefully weighed.

                            Do not underestimate the decrease in protection when using a rifle plate to go up against a handgun which is by far, the most likely threat in the scenario you presented.
                            Hi. The specific reason for hard not soft is I want to keep it in the trunk forever and not replace it every 5y. I wonder if steel plates are appropriate, where I would buy, and how heavy.

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                            • #15
                              BC9696
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 2033

                              Call me crazy but if an angry mob wants to F with the old white guy minding his own business, a tactical vest isn't gonna help. I carry pepper spray, a knife and G22. I will drive away when possible but if you are boxed in your choices are few. If they bust the window I am spraying, if they open the door I am shooting and stabbing. Probably still go down but will go down fighting and take some with me. Civility is dead today. Disrespect, violence and the mob mentality is something you are smart to be aware of. Drive away if possible...even if it means driving over offenders. I gotta steel bumper. :-)

                              Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

                              The U.S. city with the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, Washington, D.C., has the highest murder rate at 24 per 100,000.
                              The state with the most unrestrictive gun regulations, Vermont, has the lowest murder rate at 0.48 per 100,000.

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