Slings please

[ForgeSST]

Blue Force Gear - Vickers Tactical sling is the way to go.

[smoothy8500]

"locks up your support arm" In modern technique and competition, reloads are required and performed on the clock.

Get thee to an Appleseed!

Yes, both the Hasty and proper Rifleman use of the sling will lock the arm. However, you could argue that the absolute beginner will benefit from basic marksmanship/Appleseed instruction and then can move forward with other "modern technique" instruction as you say.

[JohnnyMtn]

^^^^ yes, exactly.

Can you function and do multiple mag changes if you are looped up in a sling? Of course not. Well, at least not very efficiently. And can you do the same in a hasty sling? You can but obviously not as efficient if you were not wrapped up in a sling. But that is not to say that someone should not learn the fundamentals of proper rifle marksmanship with the use of a sling. Have that knowledge in your head then start incorporating how to use a sling in the context of modern carbine tactics.

I am a huge fan of the loop sling because it greatly assists precision. But I do not loop up when shooting ARs because it is not practical. But I do practice with a hasty sling because it helps with accuracy. And I find that I can get in and out of a hasty fairly quickly using Vickers/Viking adjustable slings.

Would I use hasty all the time with a carbine? No. But it is a very good tool to have in your box should you need precise shots.

[IVC]

But it is a very good tool to have in your box should you need precise shots.

There are almost always better and more stable ways, especially with modern handguards. If you need a precise shot, sling shouldn't be your go-to method.

Yes, it's always good to have more tools in the toolbox, but in this case it's much better to pick a sling based on its primary modern purpose which is "rifle holster," than to dabble with the potential use as a shooting aid and have a sling that doesn't work well for its primary purpose.

[IVC]

Get thee to an Appleseed!

Yes, both the Hasty and proper Rifleman use of the sling will lock the arm. However, you could argue that the absolute beginner will benefit from basic marksmanship/Appleseed instruction and then can move forward with other "modern technique" instruction as you say.

Appleseed is a throwback in time to the revolutionary war so we should keep it in that perspective. Akin to local matches where guys want to use leather holsters and 1911s because "history" and don't want to compete against the contemporary setups because they are at a large disadvantage on gear alone.

[Ora Serrata]

I was first trained how to use a sling properly at a CMP Clinic. Then at an Appleseed. At Appleseed they went a lot more in depth. I highly recommend going to an Appleseed! It will change your life....

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[theLBC]

i also use bfg vickers slings. regular or padded for something heavy.

[tenemae]

As a recommendation, here's what I'd look into. Viking Tactics standard two point sling or something similar, with or without padding.

I can second this. Very happy with my viking tactics

[oscfifteen]

Aforementioned advice on slings is on point. Personal preference regarding amenities of sling, but on the fly adjustability is nice. I second the Magpul MS3 or 4 with QD for ease of use.
For training in the SAC area, is Yolo Sportsman close enough? Look up 29 Outdoor Gear/Threat Scenarios in American Canyon, and inquire about the Defensive Rifle course or private training with Ang. Ang knows what's up, will get you going with your setup and increase your confidence and hence skills. He enjoys what he does and has experience. Utilizing the sling with ready positions and offhand is made simple through practice. Check them out.

[sigstroker]

In the least, for any carbine you buy, throw at least the ten dollar web sling on it.

A cheap sling saved Kyle Rittenhouse's life.

[sbo80]

I loved the Appleseed I did. But I have never once used that technique, or done any kind of shooting that I would even consider it again. If there's long range shots, I'm using a bipod or barricade support.
I have several of the BlueForce gear ones and they work great. Same style as the Viking ones recommended. The best part about that style is the quick tighten/loosen (any of the good tactical slings have this feature, including the Magpul MS4, which I have one of too, but like it less). Pull tight to carry, will hold the rifle snug against you. Makes pistol work much easier, instead of the rifle swinging around loosely. If you've never had to move with a slung rifle (climbing a ladder!), you won't appreciate how important that is. When you need to bring the rifle back up, the quick release loosens the sling enough present. You can tailor the overall length so there's still tension in the sling, while presenting, it still provides some support, as opposed to just having a completely loose sling.

[FNGGlock]

I 3rd/4th the Magpul MS4 QD sling, used mine a few times and works well with ARs with QD mounts. Makes it easy to adjust and transition between 1 and 2 point attachment.

This sling looks very interesting due to the stretch capability. The marketing is a bit too tacticool for me, and maybe there is a cheaper stretch sling available as it seems like a good idea to keep it tight when not in hand.

https://warriorpoetsupplyco.com/wps-rifle-sling/

[stormvet]

I bought the blue force gear vickers sling when they had sale.

I believe i got more slings than rifles to put them on. My only issue is getting the different attachment equipment to fit different styles of rifles or for use with QD

That?s my preferred sling, all my favorite ARs have them. Not so favorite got Mag Pul and kick around guns get generic. But all my AR?s, AKs and my SCAR have decent to excellent ( Vickers) slings.

Even my cheapy M&P 15/22 has a generic sling, I find it uncomfortable to use a AR type rifle without a sling.

[Mezcalfud]

There is a lot going on here but my 2 cents... For a tactical AR (non bench/precision), A sling is to hang a rifle from your body (tightly and or securly) while you are not engaged. I like thin 2 point slings- Ed Sherman slings or bfg slings on the thicker side.

If you take tac rifle classes, you will learn quickly what works and how to remove crap quickly!