Father to son transfer. JUST 1 QUESTION

[golfish]

Hey fellas, so my son turned 21 early this year, he lives here at home until he finishes school.

It's time to transfer some of my guns to him but I don't want any red flags or problems for him. To start I want to transfer around 30 guns. I know, it's a drop in the bucket for most.

We're both signed up at cfars and ready to do the transfer.

I know there's no legal problem doing this. I'm just worried about the stupid CADOJ flagging him.

Should I be worried?

I've spent 40 years buying/collecting so my son and grandsons would have a few guns. I just don't want to blow it now.

[edgerly779]

Have him get fsc and go for it. Should be no issues. All must be ca legal.

[golfish]

Thanks brother, your right on here. I don't know how many times I've asked him to do this.

I'll take him down to big 5 asap.

Thanks again.

[Epaphroditus]

OPLAW form ... easy peasy.

[G.O.D.]

Have him get fsc and go for it. Should be no issues. All must be ca legal.

What do you mean by Ca Legal? Thank you.

[edgerly779]

10 round mags. read flow chart. Featureless or fixed mag . no pistol grip on semi auto shotguns.

[ohsmily]

no pistol grip on semi auto shotguns.

Looks like you need to brush up on the law; maybe refrain from giving advice.

[BOBGBA]

No pistol grip on semi auto shotgun, only applies if it has a folding or telescoping stock. Look at boxes 13 & 14 on the shotgun ban flowchart.

Greta's has several pistol grip shotguns for sale.

[G.O.D.]

10 round mags. read flow chart. Featureless or fixed mag . no pistol grip on semi auto shotguns.

Thank you, Sir.

[golfish]

Thanks guys...

So no problem with the amount of guns?

[Quiet]

OPLAW form ... easy peasy.

Correction.
This is an Intra-Familial Transfer [PC 27875] and not an Operation of Law Transfer [PC 27920].
There are different forms on CFARS/CRIS for the two types of transfers.

Thanks guys...

So no problem with the amount of guns?

CA laws requires intra-familial transfers to be infrequent. [PC 27875(a)(1)]

As long as you transfer 50 or less firearms in a calendar year, then it does not violate any CA laws.

If you transfer more than 50 firearms in a calendar years, then CA DOJ can view/prosecute you as an unlicensed firearms dealer. [PC 26500(a), 26520, 16730]

This intra-familial transfer of 30 firearms counts towards the total amount of firearms (50) that you can legally transfer within a calendar year.



Penal Code 26500
(a) No person shall sell, lease, or transfer firearms unless the person has been issued a license pursuant to Article 1 (commencing with Section 26700) and Article 2 (commencing with Section 26800) of Chapter 2.

Penal Code 26520
(a) Section 26500 does not apply to the infrequent sale, lease, or transfer of firearms.
(b) As used in this section, "infrequent" has the meaning provided in Section 16730.

Penal Code 16730
(a) As used in Section 31815 and in Division 6 (commencing with Section 26500) of Title 4, "infrequent" means both of the following are true:
(1) The person conducts less than six transactions per calendar year.
(2) The person sells, leases, or transfers no more than 50 total firearms per calendar year.
(b) As used in this section, "transaction" means a single sale, lease, or transfer of any number of firearms.

Penal Code 27545
Where neither party to the transaction holds a dealer's license issued pursuant to Sections 26700 to 26915, inclusive, the parties to the transaction shall complete the sale, loan, or transfer of that firearm through a licensed firearms dealer pursuant to Chapter 5 (commencing with Section 28050).

Penal Code 27875
(a) Section 27545 does not apply to the transfer of a firearm by gift, bequest, intestate succession, or other means from one individual to another, if all of the following requirements are met:
(1) The transfer is infrequent, as defined in Section 16730.
(2) The transfer is between members of the same immediate family.
(3) Within 30 days of taking possession of the firearm, the person to whom it is transferred shall submit a report to the Department of Justice, in a manner prescribed by the department, that includes information concerning the individual taking possession of the firearm, how title was obtained and from whom, and a description of the firearm in question. The reports that individuals complete pursuant to this subdivision shall be made available to them in a format prescribed by the department.
(4) Until January 1, 2015, the person taking title to the firearm shall first obtain a valid handgun safety certificate if the firearm is a handgun, and commencing January 1, 2015, a valid firearm safety certificate for any firearm, except that in the case of a handgun, a valid unexpired handgun safety certificate may be used.
(5) The person receiving the firearm is 18 years of age or older.

Penal Code 16720
As used in this part, "immediate family member" means either of the following relationships:
(a) Parent and child.
(b) Grandparent and grandchild.

[homelessdude]

No one can predict what this state will try to pull. If it was me I would pick ten I could live without and make a test run. Ten shouldn't attract the attention 30 will. If it goes smoothly wait a month or two then do another ten. and so on. It's easier to be extra cautious than trying to get guns back if something goes bad. JMO

[Subotai]

Technically, anything not currently registered in the system also must be transferred with the form, technically.

[golfish]

Hey guys, just a thought..I think

Any and all long guns in my legal possession before 2014 were given to him and don't need to be transferred, correct?

Just like guns my grandfather and father gave me.

Dude, I think your on to something. The cost isn't all that much (yet)

[Quiet]

Hey guys, just a thought..I think

Any and all long guns in my legal possession before 2014 were given to him and don't need to be transferred, correct?

Just like guns my grandfather and father gave me.

Dude, I think your on to something. The cost isn't all that much (yet)

Starting 01-01-2014, the intra-familial transfer of long guns were required to be reported to CA DOJ and the minimum age to transfer a long gun is 18.