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I?m starting to really hate LGS.
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And yet nearly all gas stations I drive by have cheaper cash payment than credit/debit card payment.Sales tax is always due, either charged by the seller or self-reported as "use tax." That's how CA hustles its subjects. And the tax is due whether you pay in cash or not. I'm not saying it's right or enforceable, only how it works.
On top of that, credit card networks prohibit "cash discounts" and force the same price regardless of costs associated with payment processing, and e-commerce platforms probably have similar, ever evolving anti-competitive conditions for participation. I'm not saying it's right, just how it is.
So, if you walk in and start talking about cash as benefit (red flag) and evading sales tax (red flag) and it's all over a small amount (red flag), it's no surprise that he didn't want to "make a deal" and risk dealing with FTB, his payment processor and his e-commerce platform.
But I will give you that it's strange he wouldn't sell you the item if it was offered for sale in his store and it wasn't a dedicated e-bay item.
Iirc the rule is the retailer cant say they are charging more for using CC/debit, but can offer a cash discount (not what you stated).Originally posted by leelawBecause -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?Originally posted by SoCalSig1911Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.Originally posted by PrepperGunShopTruthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).Comment
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Many of the independent gun stores out here in TX show cash price and state that credit card prices are 3% higher. They don?t seem to be having problems with their CC companies so maybe the rule is on a state by state basis.Comment
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These rules are constantly changing, both for competitive reasons within the industry and because of the federal and state laws that regulate commerce. So, I looked it up and it seems that you're both right - Visa allows discounts and incentives to pay using a different payment method, including cash. There are some regulations about which price must be displayed and how so it's not something that a store can do on a whim, but there is a way.
In context of this thread, though, the "making a deal" offer included quite a bit more than unpublished cash discount.sigpicNRA Benefactor MemberComment
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He probably thought you were some CALDOJ agent looking to trap him.I know I?m probably gonna get flamed for this, but???
As a rule, I support the theory that we, as a community, need to support our local LGS. Because the State, Legislature, and the Local agencies have become so hostile to gun owners and sellers, for the most part, only big retailer survive selling materials and equipment for us to exercise our constitutional rights.
But at the same time, some of the decisions made by some of these stores just boggle mind.
A local store had a Timney trigger unit listed for sale on eBay. So I contacted them directly, not through eBay, about making a deal. I offered him more money than he would have gotten after the eNay commission and would have paid him cash.
It would have saved me some money and reduced income to the anti-gun, evil corp eBay and lowered the tax revenue send to out evil government overlords.
But he declined and suggest that I just buy it through his website or eBay.
I just didn?t make any sense!
If I buy through eBay or his website, I would have to pay sales tax, but if I buy from the right online retailer, I don?t have to pay sales tax. Granted the price through one of those retailer would have been a little more than his eBay price, but after you add sales tax and shipping, getting it from out of state would have been cheaper overall.
/rantThere is no week nor day nor hour, when tyranny may not enter upon this country, if the people lose their supreme confidence in themselves -- and lose their roughness and spirit of defiance -- Tyranny may always enter -- there is no charm, no bar against it -- the only bar against it is a large resolute breed of men.
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