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  • #16
    m1match
    Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 374

    I have taken many classes from Bill Murphy of Firearms Training Associates. I have found the quality of their instruction to be excellent and they are conveniently located at the Rauhage's range in Norco. Bill is a Huntington Beach SWAT officer and Gunsite instructor.

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    • #17
      locosway
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jun 2009
      • 11346

      Originally posted by m1match
      I have taken many classes from Bill Murphy of Firearms Training Associates. I have found the quality of their instruction to be excellent and they are conveniently located at the Rauhage's range in Norco. Bill is a Huntington Beach SWAT officer and Gunsite instructor.

      www.ftatv.com
      Price seems good for what you get it seems. Maybe I will have to check this out.

      For the tactical it says not available to all students, anyone know what this means?
      OCSD Approved CCW Instructor
      NRA Certified Instructor
      CA DOJ Certified Instructor
      Glock Certified Armorer

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      • #18
        M47_Dragon
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 1263

        Originally posted by locosway
        For the tactical it says not available to all students, anyone know what this means?
        I see that for the Live Fire Entry course. It probably just means "No Newbies." They probably only accept students with at least some training and/or experience under their belts. They probably offer a course they would want you to take before the LFE course.
        Originally posted by bigbob76
        I'm in the process of de-humping all my Glocks.

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        • #19
          SCMA-1
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 4288

          You don't need classes. Chances are, you are trying to shoot faster then you are capable of at the moment. Just start going to club matches twice a month or so. When you are there, don't try to mimic the performance of experienced match shooters. Concentrate on yourself and your own performance. Walk before you can run; literally. Walk through the course and don't worry about the time. Get 2- alphas for every cardboard target and a solid center hit for every steel. Go only as fast as you can do this. The more you do it, the faster you will be able to shoot eventually. By all means, make friends with other shooters and ask other experienced members in your squad to critique you.

          Don't discount indoor range practice either. Get yourself some IPSC targets and only shoot at them at the very back of the range. Get to where you can keep all your shots on the head of the IPSC target on rapid fire (1 round per second) at the very back of the range. Forget trying to punch silly ragged holes at 5 or 7 yards like most people try to do to impress others. Put your target all the way back at 25 yards and be able to routinely put all your rounds on the head of the target on rapid fire. If you can't do this then you don't have the basics down and need to backup and focus on basic marksmanship. Games like IPSC and IDPA are for those who have pretty much mastered basic marksmanship first.

          SCMA-1
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          Everyone Is a Little Bit Safer Because I Am There.

          Wherever I Am,
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          Whenever I Return Home,
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          • #20
            Lucky Scott
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 2610

            Sounds like good advice. Where would I get a IDPA target?

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            • #21
              Lucky Scott
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 2610

              Opps, IPSC targets.

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              • #22
                SCMA-1
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 4288

                Originally posted by Lucky Scott
                Opps, IPSC targets.
                I used to buy mine from Alco Target in SoCal. I don't know if they are still around. Let me poke around on the net to see if I can dig up their contact info.
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                "Wherever I Walk,
                Everyone Is a Little Bit Safer Because I Am There.

                Wherever I Am,
                Anyone In Need Has a Friend.

                Whenever I Return Home,
                Everyone Is Happy I Am There."
                - "The Warrior Creed" ~ Robert L. Humphrey

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                • #23
                  SuperSet
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 9048

                  Lucky Scott, I have more than a few to spare so drop me a PM if you want them.

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                  • #24
                    SCMA-1
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 4288

                    Originally posted by Lucky Scott
                    Opps, IPSC targets.
                    Found them! They are still in Duarte; you can pick them up in person; don't have to order them.

                    Family-owned since 1984. Professional shooting targets & stands, hand built in the USA. Law Enforcement trusted. Wholesale pricing. Call 626-358-4814.
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                    "Wherever I Walk,
                    Everyone Is a Little Bit Safer Because I Am There.

                    Wherever I Am,
                    Anyone In Need Has a Friend.

                    Whenever I Return Home,
                    Everyone Is Happy I Am There."
                    - "The Warrior Creed" ~ Robert L. Humphrey

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                    • #25
                      HCz
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 3295

                      Originally posted by locosway
                      Maybe when I'm working again I'll consider a class. For the time being I'd rather get used to shooting again and learn my handgun.
                      Not to be a jerk, but if you can afford $100 or so, then the classes will improve your knowledge and skills further than you can think of.

                      Here are two groups I could recommend
                      All safe defense

                      Either Intermediate handgun or skill builder. My vote goes to skill builder

                      Greg Block
                      Develop your skills with handguns, rifles and shotguns, from basic to advanced in Southern California. Highly credentialed instructor Greg Block emphasizes civilian self-defense situations. Be Safe, Be Confident, Get Trained!

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                      • #26
                        SCMA-1
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 4288

                        One other thing; use masking tape to tape up your holes on your IPSC targets to extend their practice life. I got some where the heads are almost entirely masking tape now. I know, I'm a cheapskate.
                        sigpic

                        "Wherever I Walk,
                        Everyone Is a Little Bit Safer Because I Am There.

                        Wherever I Am,
                        Anyone In Need Has a Friend.

                        Whenever I Return Home,
                        Everyone Is Happy I Am There."
                        - "The Warrior Creed" ~ Robert L. Humphrey

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                        • #27
                          SCMA-1
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 4288

                          If you are a good learner, you can gain much from these instructionals which cover some of the basic skills you'll need to participate in action matches:











                          sigpic

                          "Wherever I Walk,
                          Everyone Is a Little Bit Safer Because I Am There.

                          Wherever I Am,
                          Anyone In Need Has a Friend.

                          Whenever I Return Home,
                          Everyone Is Happy I Am There."
                          - "The Warrior Creed" ~ Robert L. Humphrey

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                          • #28
                            SCMA-1
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 4288

                            More suggestions......

                            When you go to the indoor range, don't be content to just shoot groups two handed. Practice strong hand only shooting, and then practice weak hand only shooting. Do this until you can put all your shots on the head of that IPSC target at 25 yards. As you can see, there are lots of things you can do to improve your skills, even at an indoor range.

                            SCMA-1
                            sigpic

                            "Wherever I Walk,
                            Everyone Is a Little Bit Safer Because I Am There.

                            Wherever I Am,
                            Anyone In Need Has a Friend.

                            Whenever I Return Home,
                            Everyone Is Happy I Am There."
                            - "The Warrior Creed" ~ Robert L. Humphrey

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                            • #29
                              M47_Dragon
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1263

                              Also note that IDPA and IPSC targets differ a little bit with respect to the scoring zones:


                              IDPA target -



                              IPSC target -
                              Originally posted by bigbob76
                              I'm in the process of de-humping all my Glocks.

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                              • #30
                                locosway
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 11346

                                Originally posted by SCMA-1
                                You don't need classes. Chances are, you are trying to shoot faster then you are capable of at the moment. Just start going to club matches twice a month or so. When you are there, don't try to mimic the performance of experienced match shooters. Concentrate on yourself and your own performance. Walk before you can run; literally. Walk through the course and don't worry about the time. Get 2- alphas for every cardboard target and a solid center hit for every steel. Go only as fast as you can do this. The more you do it, the faster you will be able to shoot eventually. By all means, make friends with other shooters and ask other experienced members in your squad to critique you.

                                Don't discount indoor range practice either. Get yourself some IPSC targets and only shoot at them at the very back of the range. Get to where you can keep all your shots on the head of the IPSC target on rapid fire (1 round per second) at the very back of the range. Forget trying to punch silly ragged holes at 5 or 7 yards like most people try to do to impress others. Put your target all the way back at 25 yards and be able to routinely put all your rounds on the head of the target on rapid fire. If you can't do this then you don't have the basics down and need to backup and focus on basic marksmanship. Games like IPSC and IDPA are for those who have pretty much mastered basic marksmanship first.

                                SCMA-1
                                Thanks for the info...

                                I think I was having issues with my grip. When I hold the gun the way I like, which is with my support hand index finger on the trigger guard I shoot well.

                                When I try and shoot with my fingers all under the guard, I don't shoot well. I don't know if I should modify my grip, or just keep going the way that works best for me.
                                OCSD Approved CCW Instructor
                                NRA Certified Instructor
                                CA DOJ Certified Instructor
                                Glock Certified Armorer

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