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  • heyjerr
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Feb 2008
    • 1185

    Help me find early drafts of the second amendment

    I remember reading a very interesting article a few years ago that showed a variety of early drafts of the second amendment. They gave an interesting insight into the mindset of the framers (was it in the Federalist papers?). However when I try to find it now, I can only find mention of Madison having only one early draft where he had language to allow for conscientious objectors.

    Now it is possible that this is something I misremembered, or I read more into it than is warranted, or it could be that Google is doing a good job of hiding it from me. What I recall reading showed an evolution of the language that was finally used, but I remember it looking more like the interpretation that it was an individual right rather than being meant only for a militia (people nowadays think that the word "regulated" means "governed" or "ruled" as opposed to "trained" or "disciplined").

    I'm hoping the smart folks here could help me find that info. Or let me know that I am completely wrong.
    Do not try and bend the spoon, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth...there is no spoon.
  • #2
    Librarian
    Admin and Poltergeist
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 44652

    See if this article helps: https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitu...cond-amendment
    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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    • #3
      Old4eyes
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 1751

      Try this: https://guncite.com/journals/hardhist.html
      Send Lawyers, Guns and Money - On second thought, hold the Lawyers.

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      • #4
        homelessdude
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Aug 2013
        • 2106

        I don't think I have ever read a better explanation of how and why the Bill of Rights and the Second Amendment came to be. Thanks for posting that O4Es.

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        • #5
          heyjerr
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Feb 2008
          • 1185

          I'm still reading through what was posted. I see lots of info, but I swear I had read like 5 different drafts that would seem to indicate what they were trying to accomplish...which is really close to what I've read here so far. They showed a progression in the language to try to clarify their reasoning that I recall being a slightly different approach than what I've read here so far.

          Not saying they would've been better or worse than what these articles describe....they were just a bit more succinct and useful as an argument.

          That said, I still want to digest these thoughtfully and try to distill them until usable discussion points.
          Do not try and bend the spoon, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth...there is no spoon.

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          • #6
            Dougbert66
            Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 188

            Early drafts are enlightening.

            "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

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