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  • MolonLabe2008
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 4043

    BLM "Closed Route" markers?

    During my recent target shooting outing at my favorite spot near Barstow, I noticed a lot of red "Closed Route" markers.

    I've been shooting in this particular area since the 80's and this is the first time that I've seen these markers.

    Because of these markers, I can't get to my favorite shooting spot. I spent a day looking for another spot in the general area and most of the side dirt roads from the main dirt road had these red "Closed Route" markers.

    WTH is going on?????

  • #2
    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30242

    I seen them when...
    Weather conditions or fire damage have damaged/destroyed the route (road/trial) making it unsafe for the general public to use.
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    "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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    • #3
      MolonLabe2008
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 4043

      Originally posted by Quiet
      I seen them when...
      Weather conditions or fire damage have damaged/destroyed the route (road/trial) making it unsafe for the general public to use.
      All the roads in my case were in very good condition.

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      • #4
        Quiet
        retired Goon
        • Mar 2007
        • 30242

        Originally posted by MolonLabe2008
        All the roads in my case were in very good condition.


        If its BLM lands near Barstow, in the past (circa 2017), they posted those signs due to endangered desert tortoise migration and after the migration period ended, they removed the signs.

        Contact the local BLM office and ask them what's going on.
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        "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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        • #5
          vino68
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2016
          • 1622

          When you say, "...target shooting outing at my favorite spot...", is that code for your moonshine still location? Or weed farm?

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          • #6
            OlderThanDirt
            FUBAR
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jun 2009
            • 5987

            There has definitely been a trend in my lifetime towards limiting public access to public lands for extremely trivial reasons. It?s gotten to the point that even a remote threat of a weather event is good cause to close routes. In some cases, there are now seasonal closures regardless of weather or road conditions. Public agencies don?t want to be bothered with rescues or dealing with overcrowding when it snows and the city folk want to play. Government seems to make all decisions based on the lowest common denominator. I have lost count of the number of campsites that were closed temporarily only to never reopen.
            We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
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            • #7
              RANGER295
              Administrator
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Sep 2006
              • 4002

              What are the penalties if you pass the sign?
              "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
              ~Ben Franklin

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              • #8
                ar15robert
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2002
                • 2517

                They will do this at times on non official roads too.

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                • #9
                  Bralowe
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 734

                  This has been happening for years. The closures are designed to limit public access to public land.

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                  • #10
                    Bralowe
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 734

                    Originally posted by Quiet


                    If its BLM lands near Barstow, in the past (circa 2017), they posted those signs due to endangered desert tortoise migration and after the migration period ended, they removed the signs.

                    Contact the local BLM office and ask them what's going on.
                    Began seeing these well before 2017.

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                    • #11
                      Scratch705
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • May 2009
                      • 12537

                      Originally posted by RANGER295
                      What are the penalties if you pass the sign?
                      Heck, just pull them up and dump the sign a few feet away in the brush. Then claim you never saw it.
                      Originally posted by leelaw
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                      • #12
                        Fate
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 9545

                        Originally posted by Bralowe
                        This has been happening for years. The closures are designed to limit public access to public land.
                        Yep. California is the worst. NPS, NFS and BLM act like public land is their own private land.

                        Angeles Crest is now routinely closed if it snows. When they started that BS, 20 years ago we just drove past.

                        I might have seen some of those signs get uprooted in a windstorm. Yeah that’s it, a windstorm.
                        Last edited by Fate; 03-10-2023, 10:53 PM.
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                        • #13
                          EM2
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 6389

                          Originally posted by OlderThanDirt
                          There has definitely been a trend in my lifetime towards limiting public access to public lands for extremely trivial reasons. It?s gotten to the point that even a remote threat of a weather event is good cause to close routes. In some cases, there are now seasonal closures regardless of weather or road conditions. Public agencies don?t want to be bothered with rescues or dealing with overcrowding when it snows and the city folk want to play. Government seems to make all decisions based on the lowest common denominator. I have lost count of the number of campsites that were closed temporarily only to never reopen.
                          These gov agencies have discovered THERE AIN'T A DAMN THING YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT peasant.
                          They now have their own private playground.
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