AR lower is considered a centerline rifle?

[evlblkrfl]

Went to Turners yesterday to buy a Kimber K6s Target, Ruger 10/22 sporter
and an Aero stripped lower. Guy behind the counter said I couldn't do
that because of the 1 in 30 rule saying that the stripped lower could be made in to a centerline rifle. Is this true or should I just go somewhere else and buy the lower? I ended up buying the Kimber and Ruger there and wanted to investigate a little further before making my next move.

[CartridgeCalls]

I believe lowers are exempt from the 1 in 30.

[fx1974]

I believe lowers are exempt from the 1 in 30.

In my experience I think this is correct. I was able to DROS a pistol and a lower at the same time; they were not PPTs.

[Scratch705]

Lowers and most shotguns (i believe there is some shotguns that will count for the 1in30 but not common) are currently exempt from 1 in 30 days.

This law does change where anything firearm is 1in30 either next year or 2024

[Quiet]

Went to Turners yesterday to buy a Kimber K6s Target, Ruger 10/22 sporter
and an Aero stripped lower. Guy behind the counter said I couldn't do
that because of the 1 in 30 rule saying that the stripped lower could be made in to a centerline rifle. Is this true or should I just go somewhere else and buy the lower? I ended up buying the Kimber and Ruger there and wanted to investigate a little further before making my next move.

Currently, the 1 in 30 day wait only applies to handguns and semi-auto centerfire rifles.

An AR receiver is CA DROS'd as a "long gun, other, receiver".
If it is being CA DROS'd as a "long gun, rifle, receiver", then the CA FFL dealer is incorrectly processing it.

A stripped receiver does not have an action or a chamber/barrel, therefore it does not meet the requirements for being a semi-auto centerfire rifle.

An AR receiver (ATF 4473 as "other" and CA DROS as "other, receiver") can be made into a CA legal centerfire other firearm, CA legal centerfire rifle, CA legal centerfire shotgun, CA legal rimfire other firearm, or CA legal rimfire rifle and operate as a CA legal manually operated repeating firearm, CA legal manually operated single-shot firearm, or a CA legal semi-auto firearm.

Lowers and most shotguns (i believe there is some shotguns that will count for the 1in30 but not common) are currently exempt from 1 in 30 days.

This law does change where anything firearm is 1in30 either next year or 2024

Starting 01-01-2024, the 1 in 30 day wait will apply to all firearms.

[evlblkrfl]

Just as I suspected but wasn't certain. Thanks everyone. I'll go get a lower somewhere else.

[baih777]

Always ask for the manager .

[gigante]

Lower not a 1 in 30

[ar15barrels]

Went to Turners yesterday to buy a Kimber K6s Target, Ruger 10/22 sporter
and an Aero stripped lower. Guy behind the counter said I couldn't do
that because of the 1 in 30 rule saying that the stripped lower could be made in to a centerline rifle. Is this true or should I just go somewhere else and buy the lower? I ended up buying the Kimber and Ruger there and wanted to investigate a little further before making my next move.

You just got a counter monkey that does not know the law.
The lower is not a centerfire sem-auto rifle if it does not have an upper on it.
Go somewhere else and buy as many stripped lowers as you want.
Or break out your 03FFL/COE and tell them you are exempt and to run the DROS as an exempt transaction.

[ar15barrels]

I believe lowers are exempt from the 1 in 30.

Lowers and most shotguns (i believe there is some shotguns that will count for the 1in30 but not common) are currently exempt from 1 in 30 days.

It's not that lowers are exemot.
It's that the law ONLY covers handguns and centerfire semi-auto rifles.

The stripped lower is neither of those so the law simply does not apply.

In order for something to be exempt, it would first have to be regulated and THEN have a specific exemption written into the law for it.
The law regulating people to 1 handgun or semi-auto centerfire rifle per 30 days only applies to handguns and centerfire semi-auto rifles.

However, starting January 1st of 2024, the turners counter monkey will be correct because that's when the law changes to ALL guns, not just handguns and semi-auto centerfire rifles.

[xblax619]

It's not that lowers are exemot.
It's that the law ONLY covers handguns and centerfire semi-auto rifles.

The stripped lower is neither of those so the law simply does not apply.

In order for something to be exempt, it would first have to be regulated and THEN have a specific exemption written into the law for it.
The law regulating people to 1 handgun or semi-auto centerfire rifle per 30 days only applies to handguns and centerfire semi-auto rifles.

However, starting January 1st of 2024, the turners counter monkey will be correct because that's when the law changes to ALL guns, not just handguns and semi-auto centerfire rifles.

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Except in Los Angeles, PPTs will still be exempt from the 1 in 30 day wait.
^Los Angeles has an ordinance that does not exempt PPTs from their 1 in 30 day wait laws for handguns.

[L.A. Saiga]

pfff... That's Turdners for ya. Go to a better gun store

[joefrank64k]

Currently, the 1 in 30 day wait only applies to handguns and semi-auto centerfire rifles.

An AR receiver is CA DROS'd as a "long gun, other, receiver".
If it is being CA DROS'd as a "long gun, rifle, receiver", then the CA FFL dealer is incorrectly processing it.

A stripped receiver does not have an action or a chamber/barrel, therefore it does not meet the requirements for being a semi-auto centerfire rifle.

An AR receiver (ATF 4473 as "other" and CA DROS as "other, receiver") can be made into a CA legal centerfire other firearm, CA legal centerfire rifle, CA legal centerfire shotgun, CA legal rimfire other firearm, or CA legal rimfire rifle and operate as a CA legal manually operated repeating firearm, CA legal manually operated single-shot firearm, or a CA legal semi-auto firearm....

Could an AR receiver that was DROS'd as a "long gun, rifle, receiver" be made into a CA legal Other firearm (rifled bbl 16" or more, OAL 26" or more, no stock)

I ask because I have some lowers that have been DROS'd as "rifle" and some as "other".

[Quiet]

Could an AR receiver that was DROS'd as a "long gun, rifle, receiver" be made into a CA legal Other firearm (rifled bbl 16" or more, OAL 26" or more, no stock)

I ask because I have some lowers that have been DROS'd as "rifle" and some as "other".

Before 10-01-2021, the CA DROS system did not have an "other" subcategory for the "long gun" category.

There are no CA laws/regulations that prohibits a rifle or shotgun from being made into an other firearm that is not a pistol, rifle, or shotgun.

There are CA laws/regulations that prohibits a rifle from being made into a SBR and a shotgun from being made into a SBS.

Therefore, as long as the firearm is not configured to meet the definition of a SBR/SBS or the definition of an assault weapon, it is CA legal to make a rifle into an other firearm.



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