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  • stevosmith
    Member
    • Aug 2020
    • 106

    tough but concealable armor

    I wish we had a armor section here, it sure deserves it's own thread.

    I'm in the market for soft upper body armor that covers all around and needs to be concealable wearing a jacket.

    I have bought a hybrid vest with soft plates which is discreet somewhat and tactical somewhat but wearing a jacket it can still be seen and not natural looking.

    I have also bought a tactical condor vest with steel plates front, back and sides and this for sure is too big and heavy.

    Is there something affordable that meets my criterial of stopping a rifle round .308 being discreet under a jacket?
  • #2
    bugsy714
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 2418

    tough but concealable armor

    There is an ongoing thread I believe it is in the prepper forum that is the definitive body armor resource on Cal Guns
    dictated but not read

    Voice typing will butcher whatever I was trying to say

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    • #3
      tradecraft
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 4630

      There’s already a massive armor thread. Ditch your soft armor idea.
      Last edited by tradecraft; 12-01-2022, 1:38 AM.
      Link to my feedback: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...ser-tradecraft

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      • #4
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57136

        Originally posted by stevosmith
        Is there something affordable that meets my criterial of stopping a rifle round .308 being discreet under a jacket?
        Pick any two.
        Affordable and stops a 308 won't be discreet.
        Affordable and discreet won't stop a 308.
        Stop a 308 and be discreet won't be affordable.
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        • #5
          SVT-40
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2008
          • 12899

          You forgot comfortable.. Ain't no such thing!
          Poke'm with a stick!


          Originally posted by fiddletown
          What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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          • #6
            sigstroker
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2009
            • 19687

            Originally posted by stevosmith
            I wish we had a armor section here, it sure deserves it's own thread.

            I'm in the market for soft upper body armor that covers all around and needs to be concealable wearing a jacket.

            I have bought a hybrid vest with soft plates which is discreet somewhat and tactical somewhat but wearing a jacket it can still be seen and not natural looking.

            I have also bought a tactical condor vest with steel plates front, back and sides and this for sure is too big and heavy.

            Is there something affordable that meets my criterial of stopping a rifle round .308 being discreet under a jacket?
            There is, sorta, but it's not very affordable. It's not rated for .308 but it's good against 5.56 and 7.62x39.

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            • #7
              Librarian
              Admin and Poltergeist
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2005
              • 44660

              See http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=498169
              ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

              Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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              • #8
                pohorsky
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2016
                • 836

                I'm curious the need for a discrete armor and 308 rated. Also remember, just because its visible to you doesn't mean other people are going to notice it.

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                • #9
                  sigstroker
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 19687

                  Here's something much cheaper. It looks somewhat thicker than what I posted above, and it looks like it needs to go in a carrier of some sort, but concealable plate carriers exist. On the plus side, it's rated III+, which means .308, and it's much cheaper, although that means it's chinese.

                  Guard Dog Body Armor VERSA: The Guard Dog Body Armor Versa plate is the latest addition to the Guard Dog Body Armor line-up. This revolutionary Versa plate features flex technology that allows the plate to conform to the wearer's body, maximizing comfort during prolonged use. In addition, this Versa plate is incredibly lightweight and weighs in at an astonishing 5lbs per plate. This Versa plate has been extensively tested and meets NIJ Level 3 and 3+ standards WITHOUT additional armor or a 3a backer. No other plate on the market brings this much versatility, comfort, or protection to the table. If you are looking for the ultimate multi-hit rated lightweight armor package then look no further...Please see the testing specifications below.  Testing Specifications: 7.62x51NATO, 147-grain M80 FMJ at 2750ft/s. 5.56x45mm, 62-grain M855 Green Tip at 3000ft/s NOTE - Sold Individually. If you would like to order a pair simply selectQTY (2). 


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                  • #10
                    db556762
                    Member
                    • Jul 2022
                    • 132

                    Learn about how soft armor vests will protect against common low-caliber weapon rounds, but are incapable of stopping rifle rounds.


                    You won't stop 308 with soft armor.

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                    • #11
                      mossy
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 7386

                      Originally posted by stevosmith

                      Is there something affordable that meets my criterial of stopping a rifle round .308 being discreet under a jacket?
                      No.
                      best troll thread in calguns history
                      http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=406739



                      burn the circus down cuz the world is full of clowns

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                      • #12
                        sigstroker
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 19687

                        Originally posted by db556762
                        https://www.highcomarmor.com/why-sof...-rifle-rounds/

                        You won't stop 308 with soft armor.
                        Horsecrap. The post I made has III+ armor, III is .308.

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57136

                          Originally posted by sigstroker
                          Horsecrap. The post I made has III+ armor, III is .308.
                          Sorta...

                          Level/Type III Body Armor
                          Level III body armor is stronger than Level IIIA because it defeats rifle caliber rounds. Level III will always have a hard plate insert that must be tested in a conditioned state.

                          The NIJ tests Level III conditioned armor against a 7.62mm FMJ (M80 military) weighing 147 grain and a muzzle velocity of 2,780 ft/s. A 7.62x39mm FMJ is normally fired from an AK-47 style rifle.

                          This ensures Level III armor will stop a 5.56mm FMJ bullet fired from the most common AR-15 models.

                          Level III flexible armor is required to be tested in both new and conditioned state to get a complete understanding of its capabilities.

                          They test flexible armor with the same specs (147 grain, 2,780 ft/s, and 7.62mm) as the hard plate.

                          The biggest difference is the flexible armor must be tested with the hard armor.

                          Make sure you understand that flexible armor rated at a Level III will not stop a 7.62mm (.308) bullet without the hard armor insert.

                          The NIJ will not approve of any flexible armor replacing a hard plate unless there are at least 2 flexible plates with each other.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                          • #14
                            xrMike
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 7841

                            Originally posted by ar15barrels
                            Pick any two.
                            Affordable and stops a 308 won't be discreet.
                            Affordable and discreet won't stop a 308.
                            Stop a 308 and be discreet won't be affordable.
                            Hmmmm, kind of like the "fast, cheap, or good?" saying.

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                            • #15
                              Quiet
                              retired Goon
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 30242

                              Originally posted by stevosmith
                              Is there something affordable that meets my criterial of stopping a rifle round .308 being discreet under a jacket?
                              Nope.

                              Originally posted by ar15barrels
                              Pick any two.
                              Affordable and stops a 308 won't be discreet.
                              Affordable and discreet won't stop a 308.
                              Stop a 308 and be discreet won't be affordable.
                              sigpic

                              "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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