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  • robledor
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 789

    Stg57

    My dream gun is an stg57... I know its banned by name here in California however I was wondering if I buy a parts kit, maybe I can find a ff07 to manufacture me a receiver and have him assemble the kit. Would this work??? And is there someone who can put it together provided I buy the parts kit? Thanks same question with a sig 550...
  • #2
    Ora Serrata
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2015
    • 1715

    Only certain FALs are on the banned list. They come up for sale complete now and again. I have one I bought already built from a Steyr kit with an Imbel receiver. Go on the FAL files and educate yourself on them. When I was looking to build one a couple years ago there were kits available. I talked to Randall at AR barrels and he could do most of the work IIRC. That was my backup plan.

    You can get receivers from DSA.

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    • #3
      robledor
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2015
      • 789

      I'm not talking about the FAL...these are sigs

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      • #4
        OCEquestrian
        Calguns Addict
        • Jun 2017
        • 6898

        Originally posted by Ora Serrata
        Only certain FALs are on the banned list. They come up for sale complete now and again. I have one I bought already built from a Steyr kit with an Imbel receiver. Go on the FAL files and educate yourself on them. When I was looking to build one a couple years ago there were kits available. I talked to Randall at AR barrels and he could do most of the work IIRC. That was my backup plan.

        You can get receivers from DSA.
        He is talking about the Stg57 which is essentially a SiG 510 but the Stg57 is chambered in 7.5x55mm and uses a delayed roller blow back locking bolt system similar to the HK G3/HK91. It is NOT the Styr built Stg58 FAL.

        Originally posted by robledor
        I'm not talking about the FAL...these are sigs
        You need to move to a free state.
        Last edited by OCEquestrian; 11-01-2022, 7:17 AM.
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        • #5
          19K
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2013
          • 3621

          Originally posted by robledor
          My dream gun is an stg57... I know its banned by name here in California however I was wondering if I buy a parts kit, maybe I can find a ff07 to manufacture me a receiver and have him assemble the kit. Would this work??? And is there someone who can put it together provided I buy the parts kit? Thanks same question with a sig 550...
          Yes.

          The specific receiver named is the banned firearm.

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          • #6
            saber
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2003
            • 696

            The main issue I see is that the Sign 550 and the PE 57 are specifically banned in the legislation.

            One option you could look into is whether someone makes a "clone" Sig 550 receiver. I haven't seen one.

            An example of how that works is that the HK-91 is banned by name in the legislation but the PRT-91 is not. Since the PTR-91 is not banned by name, it is allowed and it is the same receiver and same weapon. Think about all the AK clones and AR clones that you can buy right now.

            I know its not exactly the same but have you considered the Sig 556? It's not exactly the same but there is some similarity.

            I also wanted to say the comment about going to a free state is very helpful. I found a Sig 550 for sale on Gunbroker for $21K. A Sig 550 receiver by itself is about $4K.

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            • #7
              robledor
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 789

              Exactly you got the Idea Saber.. we can "have" a "HK G3" platform style rifle but it's called PTR91.... I want the same idea but with the SIG.

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              • #8
                Quiet
                retired Goon
                • Mar 2007
                • 30241

                Originally posted by saber
                The main issue I see is that the Sign 550 and the PE 57 are specifically banned in the legislation.
                CA make/model banned assault weapons: [PC 30510(a)(12) and 11 CCR 5495(a)]
                (make) SIG (model) AMT
                (make) SIG (model) PE-57
                (make) SIG (model) SG 550
                (make) SIG (model) SG 551
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                "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                • #9
                  robledor
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 789

                  Yes but let's say a another maker made the receiver almost like a clone... for example Ptr made stg57 receivers which would be fine because they would not be banned by name...but I can have my clone..

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                  • #10
                    Quiet
                    retired Goon
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 30241

                    Originally posted by robledor
                    Yes but let's say a another maker made the receiver almost like a clone... for example Ptr made stg57 receivers which would be fine because they would not be banned by name...but I can have my clone..
                    AFAIK...

                    surplus STG57 parts kits are around $1500.

                    No one makes a semi-auto only receiver for it and no one makes Fed 922r compliance parts for it.

                    In 2018, someone tried to make a STG57 receiver for semi-auto parts kit build, but the BATFE determined that the receiver was a Title 2 MG since it could accept all of the full auto parts.
                    No one has attempted to make a receiver for it since then.

                    Need to obtain and copy the PE-57/AMT receiver in order for BATFE to not declare it a Title 2 MG.
                    The PE-57/AMT were the factory semi-auto only STG57 that was BATFE approved for importation/sale to the civilian market.

                    Depending on condition and accessories, the SIG PE-57 and SIG AMT currently sell on auctions sites in the $21,000-$26,000 price range.
                    Last edited by Quiet; 11-01-2022, 8:16 PM.
                    sigpic

                    "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                    • #11
                      robledor
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 789

                      So I'm not getting my dream gun 😕 😐. I guess I have to move...

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                      • #12
                        sigstroker
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 19594

                        I've never seen an stg57 parts set for sale. Maybe you're talking about importing one now? If it was imported before the ban, 922r prob doesn't apply. Moot, because you won't find a receiver or parts set. You prob couldn't find ammo either, even if you managed to get it built.

                        SIG 551's are much more common, but I don't remember ever seeing a parts set for those either. Who would cut up a 551 anyway? Usually parts sets come from LE guns or surplus military guns.

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                        • #13
                          robledor
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 789

                          I have seen kits... I just thought someone with enough skills and a FF07 could just build me a gun... Randall?? I reload so ammo is no issue. I'm willing to pay

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                          • #14
                            sigstroker
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 19594

                            If you can find brass. Euro milsurp is often Berdan primed.

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                            • #15
                              robledor
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 789

                              I can probably custom order brass..the problem is the receiver and getting the gun built lol

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