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  • Synoptic 12
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2019
    • 32

    Seeking Assistance Upon Purchase / Winchester Super Grade French Walnut

    Last edited by Synoptic 12; 09-22-2022, 3:33 AM. Reason: W
    Romans 3:20
    20) Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
  • #2
    whatmeworry
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 707

    What were your damages?
    Originally posted by Kestryll
    ......yes I'm an idiot

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    • #3
      Synoptic 12
      Junior Member
      • Mar 2019
      • 32

      Originally posted by whatmeworry
      What were your damages?
      No damages. However, the gun shop stole the receipt. There was no need to open the box nor did they have permission to open someone's 'personal property'. The gun shop said they had to verify the serial number. That is an outright lie for the Federal Form was sent to them via email by Kjergaard Sports which had the serial number contained within. This irks me beyond what any know. I'll never conduct business with them ever again, not ever.

      The gun shop I was doing business with had closed, so I found a new gun store, yet new no more. They're out!.
      Romans 3:20
      20) Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

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      • #4
        whatmeworry
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 707

        Originally posted by Kestryll
        ......yes I'm an idiot

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        • #5
          Synoptic 12
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2019
          • 32

          You speak as a lawyer, "What are your damages". This facet is irrelevant whereby the gun shop stole my receipt. I'm giving serious consideration in filing a complaint with the Attorney General of our state for dubious business practices. This is just the first step. Thanks very much for your input and concern.
          Romans 3:20
          20) Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

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          • #6
            Cheep
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 1312

            I don't know of any FFL that wouldn't verify the serial number on the firearm themselves, therefore opening the box. Don't know what to tell you about the receipt, ask for a duplicate.
            Originally posted by NOMADCHRIS
            your asking a question about asking a question ??? just ask the damn question!!!

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            • #7
              Synoptic 12
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2019
              • 32

              Originally posted by Cheep
              I don't know of any FFL that wouldn't verify the serial number on the firearm themselves, therefore opening the box. Don't know what to tell you about the receipt, ask for a duplicate.
              * That is my personal property. They didn't have to be sneaky in opening the box without me there. I had to wait the allotted time to have the transfer made. The gun store could have at least brought that to my attention, rather than opening the box when I was not there. I did have a duplicate sent to me by Kjergaard but it is no a "hard copy". I collect firearms, so all the details are imperative to me. By the way, I just filed a complaint with the AG of our state, "My prerogative". Thanks very much for the input. I just despise people that are deceptive and who lie.
              Romans 3:20
              20) Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

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              • #8
                smoothy8500
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 3846


                Yeah, call the AG...

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                • #9
                  SVT-40
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 12894

                  It's a bit "drama" to say they intentionally "stole" the receipt. I'll bet it got tossed along with whatever packing material was in the shipping box.

                  It's also not unusual for shops to open shipping boxes upon receiptof the box.. In fact there are federal requirements regarding how long a ffl has to enter a firearm they receive into their book.

                  Move on. It's no big deal.

                  Reporting a non event to the AG is way out of line.

                  A theft is an intentional act, which you can't prove.

                  If you didn't like how the transaction was handled use a different shop next time. I doubt this shop will miss having you as a customer...
                  Last edited by SVT-40; 09-22-2022, 6:45 AM.
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                  • #10
                    toiletfighter
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 3870

                    Patiently waiting for the punchline…
                    Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God

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                    • #11
                      Jeepergeo
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 3506

                      Rob Bonta will probably take this case on himself, just for you.

                      IMO, this is entirely on you. You should have asked the gun shop about their procedures before you engaged them. Sheesh.

                      I suspect if the gun store staff had not opened the box, your post would be ragging on said gun store for not opening the box and you finding either no receipt or the wrong gun when you opened the box...

                      Oh, and that rifle? It looks just like one I saw some young gun store guys shooting at the range.
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                      Life Member, California Rifle and Pistol Association

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                      • #12
                        MyOdessa
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 2305

                        OP, don't sell yourself short, screw AG, that's just small potatoes.
                        You should contact your CA legislator and demand that the law is passed prohibiting LGS from throwing away receipts. Also, demand that same law is passed on federal level with criminal penalties. That will teach LGS not to mess with your receipts.

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                        • #13
                          Loaded_Potato
                          Member
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 243

                          I always thought the transferring FFL has to log the firearm into their book before transfer to the purchaser. I would assume this includes verifying the serial number on the firearm itself which is why they have to open the box...

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                          • #14
                            SkyHawk
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 23510

                            Wow.

                            First, boxes containing guns must be opened to verify the firearm serial number/make/model so it can be accurately logged into the bound book aka acquisition and disposition log (required by law) and also make sure it is unloaded. That usually happens immediately not when the customer thinks is is convenient to finally show up for a big reveal.

                            Next, invoices are printed on paper not gold leaf. It should be easy for the seller to mail you another.

                            I almost wonder if this is a troll thread - calling the state's chief law enforcement officer over a missing piece of paper? Yeah, do that
                            Last edited by SkyHawk; 09-22-2022, 8:32 AM.
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                            • #15
                              Dirk Tungsten
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 2045

                              Originally posted by SkyHawk
                              I almost wonder if this is a troll thread - calling the state's chief law enforcement officer over a missing piece of paper? Yeah, do that
                              Look at his post history- 50/50 chance he's trolling.

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