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  • RuggishJoe
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2019
    • 20

    Do I need a featureless grip?

    Just ordered this Ruger pc carbine and since the webbing of my hand is over the trigger do I still require a featureless grip? I have not assembles it yet until I sort this out.


    Edit: With Boar Grip
    Last edited by RuggishJoe; 09-11-2022, 9:07 PM.
  • #2
    bohoki
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 20820

    pics would hep

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    • #3
      RuggishJoe
      Junior Member
      • Oct 2019
      • 20

      Originally posted by bohoki
      pics would hep
      Is this link not working? let me fix it.
      Last edited by RuggishJoe; 09-11-2022, 7:55 PM.

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      • #4
        Canucky
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 4265

        Ruger does sell a pistol grip model. Which model did you get? Enjoy your new plinker.

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        • #5
          RuggishJoe
          Junior Member
          • Oct 2019
          • 20

          Originally posted by Canucky
          Ruger does sell a pistol grip model. Which model did you get? Enjoy your new plinker.
          Thanks ill go shooting soon got to sort out a few thing first.

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          • #6
            johncage
            Banned
            • Dec 2018
            • 993

            you need a featureless rip where the gas passes without a scent or sound

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            • #7
              Quiet
              retired Goon
              • Mar 2007
              • 30242

              Originally posted by RuggishJoe
              Just ordered this Ruger pc carbine and since the webbing of my hand is over the trigger do I still require a featureless grip? I have not assembles it yet until I sort this out.
              As previously pictured, the firearm is considered an assault weapon under CA laws.
              ^CA felony for making it [PC 30600(a)] and CA felony for possessing it [PC 30605(a)]

              This is because it is a semi-auto centerfire rifle that does not have a fixed magazine and has a pistol grip [PC 30515(a)(1)(A)] and has a folding/telescoping stock [PC 30515(a)(1)(C)].

              In order to be CA legal, it needs to be modified to either be a featureless set up or a fixed magazine set up.

              A. Featureless.
              1. The folding/telescoping stock needs to be fixed so that it can no longer fold and no longer extend/collapse.
              2. A grip wrap/fin needs to be installed.
              3. The overall length needs to be 30" or greater with the stock fixed in place and the non-permanently attached muzzle device removed.

              B. Fixed magazine.
              1. A 10 round magazine needs to be contained in the firearm and it can not be removed without disassembling the firearm's action or the 10 round magazine needs to be permanently attached in the firearm's magazine well.
              2. The overall length needs to be 30" or greater with the stock folded/collapsed and the non-permanently attached muzzle device removed.



              Penal Code 30515
              (a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, “assault weapon” also means any of the following:
              (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of the following:
              (A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
              (B) A thumbhole stock.
              (C) A folding or telescoping stock.
              (D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
              (E) A flash suppressor.
              (F) A forward pistol grip.
              (2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
              (3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.
              (b) For purposes of this section, “fixed magazine” means an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm in such a manner that the device cannot be removed without disassembly of the firearm action.

              Penal Code 30600
              (a) Any person who, within this state, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, distributes, transports, or imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives or lends any assault weapon or any .50 BMG rifle, except as provided by this chapter, is guilty of a felony, and upon conviction shall be punished by imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170 for four, six, or eight years.

              Penal Code 30605
              (a) Any person who, within this state, possesses any assault weapon, except as provided in this chapter, shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail for a period not exceeding one year, or by imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170.
              Last edited by Quiet; 09-11-2022, 9:11 PM. Reason: OP request removal of AW pics
              sigpic

              "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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              • #8
                RuggishJoe
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2019
                • 20

                The stock is pinned so its fixed in place with a length of 37", and I'm using 10 round Glock mags and I had a boar grip laying around so I just installed it.

                Thanks for all your help guys.

                Last edited by RuggishJoe; 09-11-2022, 8:40 PM.

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                • #9
                  Angrysnarf
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 2860

                  pics not showing

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                  • #10
                    Sputnik
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 2198

                    Originally posted by Angrysnarf
                    pics not showing

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                    • #11
                      Nick Adams
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1329

                      Its crazy how hard it is to keep up. Yesterday’s “featureless” build can be tomorrow’s retroactive felony.

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                      • #12
                        Featureless
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Mar 2018
                        • 2267

                        Go featureless and don't tease The Man.
                        California Native
                        Lifelong Gun Owner
                        NRA Member
                        CRPA Member

                        ....."He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance."

                        Declaration of Independence, 1776

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                        • #13
                          Mayor McRifle
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 7676

                          Anchors Aweigh

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                          • #14
                            Nick Adams
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1329

                            Originally posted by Mayor McRifle
                            That’s why no one anywhere bothers with enforcement unless you’re a drug dealer, gang banger, or mass shooter.
                            That’s not a risk I’m interested in taking.
                            Last edited by Nick Adams; 09-16-2022, 7:42 PM. Reason: Fat thumbs

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