SB918 FAIL, Is CA now a Constitutional Carry State?

[DolphinFan]

With the current permit scheme unconstitutional and the failure of SB918,

IS CALIFORNIA A CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY STATE?

at least until they craft a lawful permitting system and "Sensitive Places" based on THT between 1789-1869?

Discuss.

[RickD427]

With the current permit scheme unconstitutional and the failure of SB918,

IS CALIFORNIA A CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY STATE?

at least until they craft a lawful permitting system and "Sensitive Places" based on THT between 1789-1869?

Discuss.

Nope. California is not yet a Constitutional Carry State.

The NYSRPA case makes a very strong argument that California's CCW statute is unconstitutional, but there has not yet been any finding that it is unconstitutional.

California was not a party to the NYSRPA case and is not bound by its holding.

[tanks]

,,,

California was not a party to the NYSRPA case and is not bound by its holding.

Supreme court decision is applicable to the whole country. You are confusing it with the appeals court cases that are applicable to the region.

That being said CCW procedures and rules still apply minus the good cause statement.

Still need a permit and still can't carry on school grounds even with a permit.

[B yond]

CA is now a "shall issue" state.

You still have to ask permission and you still have to pass a background check, pay your hard-earned money, jump through the hoops, and wait for approval.

Constitutional carry wouldn't require a permit.

[My600]

CA will NEVER be a Constitutional Carry State. NEVER

[homelessdude]

IT is an improvement on the old system that the state didn't want to concede. All those counties that refused to issue permits are supposed to start doing so. Thankfully the crap that Newsom wanted was voted down last night. In the counties that issued nothing changes. The others will need to join them.

[DolphinFan]

[RickD427]

Supreme court decision is applicable to the whole country. You are confusing it with the appeals court cases that are applicable to the region.

That being said CCW procedures and rules still apply minus the good cause statement.

Still need a permit and still can't carry on school grounds even with a permit.

Nope.

You're very correct that Supreme Court cases are binding nationwide.

That's not where you made your mistake.

Your mistake is that California's CCW statute was not tested by the NYSRPA case. The holding of NYSRPA makes it pretty clear that California's CCW statute will not withstand such a test.

But it ain't been fully tested yet. Miller v Bonta is currently working its way through the system, but we'll have to wait until its concluded to know the answer.

[Librarian]

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