Fire at the Sac Valley range today

[johnthomas]

Last year, the same thing happened at Sagun Seca. Went to Laguna yesterday and It looked like it had been burned recently.

[Ahhnother8]

Just got home, will post pics later.

Caused by someone shooting surplus steel core/jacketed ammo on the steel silhouette range - in violation of range rules.

Minimal damage. Only grass was burned.

I heard it was caused by someone shooting a Mosin-Nagant at the 600 yard line...

The "thumping" of the helicopter blades was affecting the concentration of the shooter that I was scoring for.

Lane

[Pthfndr]

I heard it was caused by someone shooting a Mosin-Nagant at the 600 yard line...

No, that guy was shooting 175gr Sierra SMKs. Not some little mouse gun like some people

The "thumping" of the helicopter blades was affecting the concentration of the shooter that I was scoring for.

Lane

Was that Alex's excuse?

[CA357]

That sucks, I love that place.

[jb7706]

Might want to consider next year mowing the grass before summer.
Chief

There is a fire break around the ranges, but yes there will be a bit more attention paid to that next year. Those plans are already in the works. FD also said they would do controlled burns for us too. They train, we lose tinder material. Win-win.

[xrMike]

Last year, the same thing happened at Sagun Seca. Went to Laguna yesterday and It looked like it had been burned recently.

I think that was a controlled burn they did, to remove all fuel and prevent any "accidents" from happening later this summer.

[DarkHorse]

...Sac Valley has no restrictions on ammo on the public 100 and 300 yard ranges except no tracers. On the steel silhouette range they do not allow FMJ or magnum ammo, or anything over 3100 feet per second muzzle velocity. These restrictions are listed on the sign in sheet for the silhouette range, and this sign is posted in numerous places on the silhouette range.


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So, where is the restriction on steel-core ammo?

AFAIK, FMJ =/= steel-core.

[Pthfndr]

So, where is the restriction on steel-core ammo?

AFAIK, FMJ =/= steel-core.

restrictions are listed on the sign in sheet for the silhouette range

On the sil range sign in sheet.

[snypr]

Typical people who dont follow the rules ruin it for everyone....dumb a$ses

[rg_1111@yahoo.com]

I glad the damage was minor. I like that range a lot. Good people and friendly.

[tango5]

This has happened twice at the USI range in Concord.. both times it was put out before it reached the houses.. and that is why they do not allow steel core on any of the ranges anymore.

You are correct, they dont allow steel core ammo to be shot at the ranges, yet they sell steel core ammo at the tower. This was brought to the attention of the Diablo Rod and Gun Club board at the June meetings. They said they would look into it, yet many members said they have bought and used their ammo they sell.

[DarkHorse]

On the sil range sign in sheet.

Why isn't it on the sign, too?

Don't get me wrong, if people are told the rules, and then disobey them, go ahead and break a foot off...

It just seems that if you were to make signs reminding folks of certain important restrictions, that the sign should hit all the major points, and this sign seems to be lacking a crucial one.

Just my 2 Abes.

[Fjold]

No FMJ and steel core, can you shoot solids?

[Pthfndr]

Why isn't it on the sign, too?

Don't get me wrong, if people are told the rules, and then disobey them, go ahead and break a foot off...

It just seems that if you were to make signs reminding folks of certain important restrictions, that the sign should hit all the major points, and this sign seems to be lacking a crucial one.

Just my 2 Abes.

I don't know why it isn't on the sign also. Why don't you email the range General Manager, Jack, and ask him ( sacvalley@outdrs.net ) Tell him you heard about what happened and your concern about the signs. He's a decent guy.

I have to ask you though, have you ever seen steel core/steel jacketed surplus ammo that was not also FMJ?

[Pthfndr]

No FNJ and steel core, can you shoot solids?

Good question. I would think that if they were solid brass/steel/copper the answer would be no. Solid lead, yes, they are good to go because they are considered a soft point bullet.