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Hello! I’ve got some questions that I need help on – I’ve done a lot of searching and reading, but my situation doesn’t line up with anything I could find in the forums or online.
My dad recently passed away, and he was an avid gun collector (and Special Forces Vietnam veteran – those two things often go hand-in-hand). He willed his guns to me and I’m also the executor of his estate. He lived in FL, and I live part-time in IL and part-time in CA (basically “snowbirding” and job is consulting so can work remote). California is where spend most time, so plan to move the guns there (eventually). My goal is to be as above board as possible and want to declare the guns (reporting them using the Inter-Familial Firearms Transactions). I’ve already moved them to IL. I don’t plan to ever carry them as an “EDC”, vehicular carry, or a concealed weapon, just want to use them at the gun range occasionally.
• He had three Beretta 9mm – an M9A3 (2018), a Px4 Storm Subcompact (2016ish?), and a late 70s era 92S (an imported Italian service model) – I assume all the magazines (17, 13, and 15 rounds each) are not useable in California? I hope I can find 10 round versions!
• Similarly he had a Ruger 10/22 – are .22 cal rimfire under the same magazine restrictions as centerfire? There are several of the standard 10 round magazines, but also a couple 25 round banana clips – are those something that would just have to be left behind?
• He owned two black powder rifles (a Thompson Center Renegade and a Connecticult Valley Arms Express side-by-side) – those declare just like a regular gun on the Inter-Familial Firearms Transactions?
• There were several guns that I don’t think will be an issue – two Remington shotguns; a small .38 revolver from the 70s; my one grandfather’s Winchester 670 hunting rifle, and my other grandpa’s .22 Hi-Standard Duramatic – all seem pretty straight-forward and legal, once declared on the form
• The most confusing one is an AR-15 style rifle – it was a separate lower and upper receiver he bought. Not 100% sure about the model/manufactures, but from the markings and internet, I believe the lower is USM4 US Autoweapons (not automatic, only semi); the upper is a “SAA” (Surplus Arms and Ammo?) 16” barrel. I plan to make it a “featureless” gun, by using the Resurgent Arms Compliance Kit (https://resurgentarms.com/basic-ra-compliance-kit/). Following the flowchart (https://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf), it appears to be legal. That is: it is an AR type; but not on Appendix B or C; doesn’t have a barrel shorter than 16”; not on Appendix A; not chambered in .50 cal; total length is over 30”; has detachable mags, but no “banned” features. Obviously I will have to do without the standard 30 round mags, and stick with 10. After I’ve done all of that, do I just list it on the Inter-Familial, using the serial number on the lower receiver, like all the others? I’m also leery to write “AR-15” in the “Model” space – is there a generally accepted term to draw less attention for these, like “AR type”?
I’m also thinking that I might declare the AR on a separate form (/$19) in case it gets rejected or causes trouble for the other guns - is that smart/good or bad move?
Any help is appreciated - just trying to do the right thing!
My dad recently passed away, and he was an avid gun collector (and Special Forces Vietnam veteran – those two things often go hand-in-hand). He willed his guns to me and I’m also the executor of his estate. He lived in FL, and I live part-time in IL and part-time in CA (basically “snowbirding” and job is consulting so can work remote). California is where spend most time, so plan to move the guns there (eventually). My goal is to be as above board as possible and want to declare the guns (reporting them using the Inter-Familial Firearms Transactions). I’ve already moved them to IL. I don’t plan to ever carry them as an “EDC”, vehicular carry, or a concealed weapon, just want to use them at the gun range occasionally.
• He had three Beretta 9mm – an M9A3 (2018), a Px4 Storm Subcompact (2016ish?), and a late 70s era 92S (an imported Italian service model) – I assume all the magazines (17, 13, and 15 rounds each) are not useable in California? I hope I can find 10 round versions!
• Similarly he had a Ruger 10/22 – are .22 cal rimfire under the same magazine restrictions as centerfire? There are several of the standard 10 round magazines, but also a couple 25 round banana clips – are those something that would just have to be left behind?
• He owned two black powder rifles (a Thompson Center Renegade and a Connecticult Valley Arms Express side-by-side) – those declare just like a regular gun on the Inter-Familial Firearms Transactions?
• There were several guns that I don’t think will be an issue – two Remington shotguns; a small .38 revolver from the 70s; my one grandfather’s Winchester 670 hunting rifle, and my other grandpa’s .22 Hi-Standard Duramatic – all seem pretty straight-forward and legal, once declared on the form
• The most confusing one is an AR-15 style rifle – it was a separate lower and upper receiver he bought. Not 100% sure about the model/manufactures, but from the markings and internet, I believe the lower is USM4 US Autoweapons (not automatic, only semi); the upper is a “SAA” (Surplus Arms and Ammo?) 16” barrel. I plan to make it a “featureless” gun, by using the Resurgent Arms Compliance Kit (https://resurgentarms.com/basic-ra-compliance-kit/). Following the flowchart (https://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf), it appears to be legal. That is: it is an AR type; but not on Appendix B or C; doesn’t have a barrel shorter than 16”; not on Appendix A; not chambered in .50 cal; total length is over 30”; has detachable mags, but no “banned” features. Obviously I will have to do without the standard 30 round mags, and stick with 10. After I’ve done all of that, do I just list it on the Inter-Familial, using the serial number on the lower receiver, like all the others? I’m also leery to write “AR-15” in the “Model” space – is there a generally accepted term to draw less attention for these, like “AR type”?
I’m also thinking that I might declare the AR on a separate form (/$19) in case it gets rejected or causes trouble for the other guns - is that smart/good or bad move?
Any help is appreciated - just trying to do the right thing!
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