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  • Creative300
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2022
    • 73

    Mass Shootings: Causes and Possible Solutions

    Very long, but very englightening talk about the causes of the high rate of "gun violence" in America.




    Canada and Switzerland have very high rates of gun ownership like the US, but almost no mass shootings with much lower rate of violent crime. In short, its not the guns stupid. Politicians are barking up the wrong tree and not doing anything to effectively address the issue. Politicians do little more than constantly scream about gun control just to get elected but actually doing nothing to address the root causes of the problem.
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    Rcjackrabbit
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 971

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    • #3
      The Gleam
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2011
      • 12407

      Originally posted by Creative300
      Very long, but very englightening talk about the causes of the high rate of "gun violence" in America.




      Canada and Switzerland have very high rates of gun ownership like the US, but almost no mass shootings with much lower rate of violent crime. In short, its not the guns stupid. Politicians are barking up the wrong tree and not doing anything to effectively address the issue. Politicians do little more than constantly scream about gun control just to get elected but actually doing nothing to address the root causes of the problem.
      Posted elsewhere, but serves equally well here...

      On October 24th,2015 Adacia Chambers intentionally plowed her car into the OSU Homecoming parade injuring 46 and killing 4. - All the media concentrated on and could comment about, in sympathy no less, was her mental health and the state of mental healthcare in the United States. She was not DUI; she did this intentionally. Now even today, if you pull up news/updates about her, ALL they mention is her 'suffering' and the shame that she is in prison for life and not absolved for the act, because of her mental health or lack of resources for care of the same: nobody blamed the car or sought to ban cars in general, nor had emotional please to make buying/owning a car even more restrictive, nor called he actions domestic terrorism.

      And yet... just a month later, on November 27th, 2015, Robert Lewis Dear Jr. in a psychotic tirade shot up a Planned Parenthood facility in Colorado Springs, Colorado - injuring 9 people and killing 3. - Every news story, every sound byte did nothing but talk about banning guns, guns being the problem, calling for more gun control, labeled it domestic terrorism. It even went as far as President Barack Obama releasing a statement on November 28, 2015, that stressed stricter gun control legislation BECAUSE of this very incident. Tyrants will use such incidents to seek to ban firearms in its constant push for power over the People; they don't give two wits whether it will stop violent crime/mass murder.


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      Originally posted by Librarian
      What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

      If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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      • #4
        The Gleam
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2011
        • 12407

        Originally posted by Rcjackrabbit
        Here is the cause - America is under judgement from God for it’s evil. You are witnessing the actions of demon possessed individuals.

        Look around. You are seeing Satan’s children erupt in violence and anger because they can’t murder babies.

        You will never understand this without knowledge of God.

        Repent and believe in Jesus Christ. That is your only hope.
        Or not. I'm living proof this simply is not true.

        There is more at work here than simply saying "the Devil made me do it" which is about the equivalent of someone saying "the gun made me do it".

        Both are just as silly a blame game.


        I'm a lifetime atheist, have had firearms at my disposal since age 6, first shotgun at age 8 (Mossberg 500) and first handgun (HK VP70Z) at age 12.

        Had a gun store in the family over the years, and never once did I ever think or wish to use a firearm against another in an offensive action any more than I ever thought to use my car to run over a bunch of kids (whereas someone like Elliot Rodgers in Isla Vista sought to do both - he even put it in writing).

        I've never been prone to erupt in violence and anger (except meeting violence with violence in self defense as may be expected) and I have no desire to murder babies. I've stated elsewhere numerous times that science clearly shows abortion at any 'stage' - is murder.

        Guidance, respect, responsibility, hard work, doing the right thing, helping when and where you can, even the "Golden Rule" as much as that comes from proverbs, and just about everything else quoted in the bible or any other theological literature, or the writing of Shakespeare, Dickens, Dostoevsky, Steinbeck, or Kerouac, and applied as a way of life, is as much available to any atheist as to any other person who may believe in God, Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, the Green Man, and so on.

        I don't believe in God, and if I did, I would never believe Jesus was the son of such God.

        And yet, to meet me, to know me, you would realize I am one of the most conservative, hard-working, upstanding, call me in the middle of the night with any problem and I'll be there, don't drink, don't smoke, don't do drugs (and never did) never been arrested most generous people you know - all sans the God part.



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        Originally posted by Librarian
        What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

        If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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        • #5
          DaveInOroValley
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jan 2010
          • 8967

          There was another article I read in regards to the people in the Phillipines. It came down to while guns were readily available and killings happen mass shootings don’t because of the disgrace they would bring to their family.
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          • #6
            Creative300
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2022
            • 73

            Originally posted by The Gleam
            Posted elsewhere, but serves equally well here...

            On October 24th,2015 Adacia Chambers intentionally plowed her car into the OSU Homecoming parade injuring 46 and killing 4. - All the media concentrated on and could comment about, in sympathy no less, was her mental health and the state of mental healthcare in the United States. She was not DUI; she did this intentionally. Now even today, if you pull up news/updates about her, ALL they mention is her 'suffering' and the shame that she is in prison for life and not absolved for the act, because of her mental health or lack of resources for care of the same: nobody blamed the car or sought to ban cars in general, nor had emotional please to make buying/owning a car even more restrictive, nor called he actions domestic terrorism.

            And yet... just a month later, on November 27th, 2015, Robert Lewis Dear Jr. in a psychotic tirade shot up a Planned Parenthood facility in Colorado Springs, Colorado - injuring 9 people and killing 3. - Every news story, every sound byte did nothing but talk about banning guns, guns being the problem, calling for more gun control, labeled it domestic terrorism. It even went as far as President Barack Obama releasing a statement on November 28, 2015, that stressed stricter gun control legislation BECAUSE of this very incident. Tyrants will use such incidents to seek to ban firearms in its constant push for power over the People; they don't give two wits whether it will stop violent crime/mass murder.


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            We have stricter gun control laws every year and yet the number of mass shootings and violent crime keeps going up. If gun control was working then the numbers should be going down not up. But unfortunately our corrupt politicians are incapable of doing simple arithmetic. Or maybe they do know but don't care about actually doing anything that might fix the problem. The blood is on their hands.

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            • #7
              CessnaDriver
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2009
              • 10674

              Societal decay, morality collapse, parenting failures, soft on criminals. It's not the guns.

              Lots of guns and less gun laws in the past, we didn't have these issues.
              Kids brought guns to school to use after school. Gasp.

              Rise of far left liberalism seems to correlate if you ask me.
              I'm not religious but kids raised with some kind of good morality structure whatever form that comes in and it doesn't have to be religion seems to be getting less, MIA parents is getting worse, fathers for boys instead of thug culture raising them. Mental health problems I suspect just have drugs thrown at them instead of proper follow ups and progress checks.

              Of course politicans blame guns, it's fast and easy, you get points for "doing something"! and demonizing your opposition. Gun control is a hamster wheel to no where. But it sure looks like the hamster is doing something.


              "Yeah, like... well, I just want to slap a hippie or two. Maybe even make them get jobs."

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              • #8
                Sir Toast
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 3140

                Oh my F'ing Lord and Baby Jesus. I watched the whole video and the conclusion almost forced me to do a mass shooting.

                Just skip to about 3 minutes before the ending. 'Nuff said.

                I wish I could punch that king of mansplainers in the nose.



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                • #9
                  Oldmandan
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 2721

                  I’ll tell you the real cause

                  In the 70’s, they stopped institutionalizing crazy people. shortly thereafter crazy people who weren’t locked up, Started acting like crazy people.

                  Then Joe Biden created a law virtually guaranteeing nobody would stop you at a school, and GW Bush signed it into law

                  The End
                  "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them" - Richard Henry Lee

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                  • #10
                    Dan_Eastvale
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 10338

                    These perps are suicidal. They believe they are losers. They want national and worldwide recognition . They want to go out with a bang. I’m not talking about Jihad killings which are religion motivated.

                    Maybe because other countries support losers?
                    Likely.
                    What’s the average age of these mass school shootings?
                    Do they have a eyebrow raising record?
                    They just snap!
                    Kill more kids with guns?
                    Maybe.
                    Maybe use a car?
                    It’s unfortunate but it doesn’t justify dissolution of our 2A rights!
                    Impossible to prevent . BUT, an armed citizenry, ie teachers, can reduce the losses.

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                    • #11
                      Creative300
                      Junior Member
                      • Jun 2022
                      • 73

                      Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
                      These perps are suicidal. They believe they are losers. They want national and worldwide recognition . They want to go out with a bang. I’m not talking about Jihad killings which are religion motivated.

                      Maybe because other countries support losers?
                      Likely.
                      What’s the average age of these mass school shootings?
                      Do they have a eyebrow raising record?
                      They just snap!
                      Kill more kids with guns?
                      Maybe.
                      Maybe use a car?
                      It’s unfortunate but it doesn’t justify dissolution of our 2A rights!
                      Impossible to prevent . BUT, an armed citizenry, ie teachers, can reduce the losses.
                      Better to try to help someone than isolate them from society,
                      giving them even more reason to hate everyone and act out their anger.

                      I thought the bible teaches us we should help the less fortunate?

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                      • #12
                        DDM4556
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 2601


                        We live in a country where people's lives are largely unfulfilled. There are more people than there is purpose. Idle hands... (to use your language). In this oversaturated society, no one prioritizes any kind of personal or moral growth. Our entertainment industries teach our kids to "be themselves", never acknowledging weaknesses of character or how to correct them. Instead, the opposite message is pushed. Don't accept criticism. You're perfect as you are and entitled to the possessions and status you want....

                        But what people really want is purpose, and there is NONE. So people invent problems, and causes to fight for. And they become "social justice warriors" And they change their gender for attention and validation. Because after all the only struggle they know, is one of social status. Hence the unwavering addiction to social media.

                        Eventually some of the many lost souls in this country break under the pressure. They can't find meaning, they have no purpose, and they aren't achieving the status they need to feel justified in their existence.

                        So they decide to punish the society that tortures them. And to cause as much destruction as they feel inside. And once the atrocity is committed, our media solidifies that it was the right decision, and that they will forever be remembered.

                        You don't need God to understand what's going on. I don't care if you're religious or not, sitting on your butt and praying isn't going to make this go away. This isn't God's problem to fix; its ours. And its going to get worse.
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                        • #13
                          wooshna
                          Member
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 186

                          the cause of gun violence...

                          1) Responsible gun ownership is widely not taught to the next generation.
                          2) gun free zones
                          3) political agenda

                          How to solve the problem...

                          1) Commit a Crime with a gun... death penalty. no jury no lawyers no BS.

                          In less than a few months those who commit crimes with guns will be dead... those who are thinking of committing crimes with guns will think twice.

                          Yeah yeah too extreme but hey why not if everything is mental health and we are letting all prisoners out and not prosecuting any crimes because its a mental health issue then essentially this problem will always be a problem.

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                          • #14
                            Rcjackrabbit
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 971

                            The shooter was a drug addict. Drugs are witchcraft that open a portal to be possessed by demons. There is a reason why in olden days they showed a witch with a boiling cauldron.

                            He was cutting himself. Classic signs of demon possession.

                            He was gender confused and a Sodomite.

                            No normal person shoots children in the face.

                            That is the work of demons. Everything posted above are symptoms.

                            The disease is forgetting God. The judgement on this country is obvious!!!!!

                            Wake up!

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                            • #15
                              Epaphroditus
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 4888

                              Disbelief in the divine does not prevent satan's plans from festering onward.
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