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  • #16
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57118

    Originally posted by LBgunguy
    that's what I heard. I am going for my CCW so I wanted something compact with some stopping power. Seems like everyone wants to carry a semi automatic because of capacity but most gun fights don't go for more than a couple shots anyway. If im going to carry it Im going to have to learn how to use it. If I can't stay on target with .357 then I would just carry with 38 special. Gotta try it either way
    My firstline carry piece is an airweight 38+p snubby.
    It's also no fun to shoot but it's lighter than most 357's.
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    • #17
      LBgunguy
      Junior Member
      • Jun 2022
      • 49

      Originally posted by ar15barrels
      My firstline carry piece is an airweight 38+p snubby.
      It's also no fun to shoot but it's lighter than most 357's.
      Nice. Yeah sounds like we think along the same lines in terms of carry. If my gun is chambered in .357 does that automatically mean the gun can handle +p? (+p 38 special to clarify)
      Last edited by LBgunguy; 06-13-2022, 10:18 AM. Reason: clarification

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      • #18
        Sequencer60
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2016
        • 530

        Originally posted by LBgunguy
        Nice. Yeah sounds like we think along the same lines in terms of carry. If my gun is chambered in .357 does that automatically mean the gun can handle +p? (+p 38 special to clarify)
        Yes

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        • #19
          TipsyMcStaggers
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2020
          • 26

          Originally posted by 200Apples
          Mind the fact that "plated" rather than "jacketed" lead bullets have a speed limit, according to one major maker of plated bullets, Berry's. Usually somewhere in the neighborhood of 1250 fps...

          Meaning, you'll be fine using this LAX ammo in a revolver but should you want to use it, say, in a lever-action carbine chambered for .357 you will after just a few rounds wish to inspect the bore for bullet plating fouling. One should use straight lead bullets (with speeds according to their Brinell hardness/alloy composition) or a good, commercial jacketed bullet like Hornady, Nosler, etc...
          Interesting, I had never heard of that before. I'm guessing the above linked JSPs (PMC) would be fine in a lever-action 357?
          Han shot first

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          • #20
            LBgunguy
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2022
            • 49

            Originally posted by 200Apples
            Which model revolver did you just buy?

            Also, like 9mm, .357 is *usually* available in different bullet weights. While I prefer heavier-for-caliber bullets in whatever I shoot, I have a little S&W J-frame Model 60 (it could be a snubnose but for it's 3" barrel, giving improved projectile velocties and longer sight radius) and .357 from it can be near-painful if the gun's grip shape doesn't fit your hand a certain way. With an Altamont (brand name) "Batelur" (grip style) fitted to this niftly Model 60, a 125-grain bullet from a commercial .357 load is shootable.

            During your search for .357 also look for .38 Special +P, for the .38 +P should prove to be the sweet spot for power without the wicked recoil. Recoil will still be stout, though.
            Sorry, just missed this. Bought the Taurus 605 which is basically a J-frame knock off. 5-shot .357

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            • #21
              200Apples
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              • Dec 2011
              • 7217

              Originally posted by TipsyMcStaggers

              Interesting, I had never heard of that before. I'm guessing the above linked JSPs (PMC) would be fine in a lever-action 357?

              Jacketed soft points (sometimes referred to as "semi-jacketed"), using a gilded* or gilding* metal jacket (made of a copper alloy) ...are fine and do not shed their jacketing in the barrel bore. They will, as all jacketed bullets do, leave a copper fouling which is residue.


              *not "gliding" metal. It is spelled "gilded", as in artistic metalwork - "a gilded cage", for example... I make this distinction because once when discussing this topic another person adamantly attempted to correct the term by insisting it was GLIDING metal... and although we do like to think that our bullets "glide" through our firearm bores (it is only natural to think so) that's not what occurs.
              Last edited by 200Apples; 06-13-2022, 4:48 PM.
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              • #22
                200Apples
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                • Dec 2011
                • 7217

                Originally posted by LBgunguy

                Sorry, just missed this. Bought the Taurus 605 which is basically a J-frame knock off. 5-shot .357

                Cool. Have fun with it! when you practice. Here's hoping you might find a little .357 and a lot of .38 +P.

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                • #23
                  fishn395
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2020
                  • 34

                  Turners in FV had some .357 Fiocchi, Thursday.

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                  • #24
                    LBgunguy
                    Junior Member
                    • Jun 2022
                    • 49

                    Originally posted by fishn395
                    Turners in FV had some .357 Fiocchi, Thursday.
                    Thanks! ill check it out tomorrow

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                    • #25
                      Jimi Jah
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 18747

                      Originally posted by 200Apples
                      The LAX Ammo "New Manufactured" as well as any of their revolver "Reloaded" uses a plated rnfp. You should be good to go, there.

                      Mind the fact that "plated" rather than "jacketed" lead bullets have a speed limit, according to one major maker of plated bullets, Berry's. Usually somewhere in the neighborhood of 1250 fps...

                      Meaning, you'll be fine using this LAX ammo in a revolver but should you want to use it, say, in a lever-action carbine chambered for .357 you will after just a few rounds wish to inspect the bore for bullet plating fouling. One should use straight lead bullets (with speeds according to their Brinell hardness/alloy composition) or a good, commercial jacketed bullet like Hornady, Nosler, etc...
                      I don't have a 357 handgun. I use it in my Henry Big Boy steel side gate. Shoots clean, no fouling, easy bore cleanup. For softer and slower rounds I use 38 special.

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                      • #26
                        LBgunguy
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2022
                        • 49

                        Originally posted by 200Apples
                        Cool. Have fun with it! when you practice. Here's hoping you might find a little .357 and a lot of .38 +P.

                        Shot some 38 specials today. Very Manageable and I really enjoyed it but didn't get my hands on any .357. Guy at the ammo store said he has shot .357 through a snubbie and it's like standing in the batting cages and holding your hand out for the ball to hit you. Not very pleasant. Think I will still try it next time I go shooting

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                        • #27
                          c good
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 2647

                          Originally posted by LBgunguy
                          Shot some 38 specials today. Very Manageable and I really enjoyed it but didn't get my hands on any .357. Guy at the ammo store said he has shot .357 through a snubbie and it's like standing in the batting cages and holding your hand out for the ball to hit you. Not very pleasant. Think I will still try it next time I go shooting
                          That's pretty accurate description. It's a nasty round in a snubbie. Way more than you would ever need for CCW. Soft point .38 special plus P is plenty. Don't buy much of that .357 unless you get a 4 in or 6 in full lugged revolver.

                          Since you're new to revolvers.....be sure to keep your digits away from the Cylinder/Barrel Gap. Gas cutting is a real deal. HTH...Be safe...Have fun.

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                          • #28
                            LBgunguy
                            Junior Member
                            • Jun 2022
                            • 49

                            Originally posted by c good
                            That's pretty accurate description. It's a nasty round in a snubbie. Way more than you would ever need for CCW. Soft point .38 special plus P is plenty. Don't buy much of that .357 unless you get a 4 in or 6 in full lugged revolver.

                            Since you're new to revolvers.....be sure to keep your digits away from the Cylinder/Barrel Gap. Gas cutting is a real deal. HTH...Be safe...Have fun.
                            Thanks for the tip. Yeah I saw a Hickock 45 video where he held up a piece of paper next to the cylinder and fired off a round. Shredded the paper up pretty bad. Message received loud and clear

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                            • #29
                              plumbum
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2010
                              • 5394

                              I've only seen .38 specials, and that has been very infrequent. Personally I have 2 .38 snubbies and I'm confident enough with said performance. Best of luck finding .357's, they've got to be gold these days.
                              Originally posted by ysr_racer
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                              • #30
                                mycrstuff
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 1410

                                I bought a couple boxes of 357 SPJ from Rifle Gear about a month ago. One of the problems with JSP is the indoor range I go to does not allow them as they can splatter just like hollow points. My friend has a 357 Henry I can't wait to try those at the outdoor range.

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