SHOTGUN COMPLIANCE

[Regla]

Hi everyone! im asking regarding shotgun law here in CA. Just got an m2 with a pistol grip. it seems like there are no new threads or anything about modifying/ replacing parts for a shotgun.

what's legal and what is not? Can i replace the limiter on the tube for a +2.
All parts made in US are all legal?

thanks in advance!

[Quiet]

In order to be CA legal, shotguns must comply with CA SBS laws and CA assault weapons laws for shotguns.

CA SBS laws requires all shotguns to have a:
1. Minimum barrel length of 18". [PC 17180(a)]
2. Minimum overall length of 26". [PC 17180(b)]

CA assault weapons laws requires all shotguns to not:
1. Operate utilizing a revolving cylinder. [PC 30515(a)(8)]

CA assault weapons laws requires semi-auto shotguns to:
1. Not have a folding/telescoping stock and a pistol grip or vertical grip. [PC 30515(a)(6)]
2. Operate utilizing a fixed magazine. [PC 30515(a)(7)]


The ammunition feeding device on a shotgun must also comply with CA large capacity magazine laws.
^Fixed tubular magazines on lever-action shotguns are exempt from CA large capacity magazine laws. [PC 16740(c)]

Unless exempt, it is illegal to make, import, or transfer large capacity (11+ round) magazines for shotguns [PC 32310(a)] and illegal to make, import, or transfer large capacity magazine conversion kits for shotguns [PC 32311(a)].

[sfvshooter]

Maybe try the shotgun section?

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/forumdisplay.php?f=68

[Regla]

Maybe try the shotgun section?

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...splay.php?f=68

no luck there.

[Regla]

In order to be CA legal, shotguns must comply with CA SBS laws and CA assault weapons laws for shotguns.

CA SBS laws requires all shotguns to have a:
1. Minimum barrel length of 18". [PC 17180(a)]
2. Minimum overall length of 26". [PC 17180(b)]

CA assault weapons laws requires all shotguns to not:
1. Operate utilizing a revolving cylinder. [PC 30515(a)(8)]

CA assault weapons laws requires semi-auto shotguns to:
1. Not have a folding/telescoping stock and a pistol grip or vertical grip. [PC 30515(a)(6)]
2. Operate utilizing a fixed magazine. [PC 30515(a)(7)]


The ammunition feeding device on a shotgun must also comply with CA large capacity magazine laws.
^Fixed tubular magazines on lever-action shotguns are exempt from CA large capacity magazine laws. [PC 16740(c)]

Unless exempt, it is illegal to make, import, or transfer large capacity (11+ round) magazines for shotguns [PC 32310(a)] and illegal to make, import, or transfer large capacity magazine conversion kits for shotguns [PC 32311(a)].

I understand that either ill have a collapsible stock or just fixed stock. I am mainly concerned about adding/modifying/changing thing with my benelli such as a +2 tube

[dfens]

I think he worried about 922R which is a federal law which also applies to imported semi-auto shotguns like the Benelli.

This is a problem with Benelli M4 to make it 922R compliant you have to replace 3 parts with american made onese where one of them can be the mag tube to increase from 5 rounds to 7.

Here is the list of parts that you can replace:

Receiver
Barrel
Bolt
Bolt carrier
Gas piston
Trigger housing
Trigger
Hammer
Disconnector
Buttstock (with integral pistol grip)
Forearm/handguard (forend)
Magazine body
Follower

I always wondered has anyone ever been busted or harassed for adding a +2 tube extension in CA? 922R is a federal law not a CA law so would cops in CA even know or care? I mean how would you be able to even prove you have 3 parts made in America unless you had the old parts in a bag at home or something.

[L84CABO]

I think he worried about 922R which is a federal law which also applies to imported semi-auto shotguns like the Benelli.

This is a problem with Benelli M4 to make it 922R compliant you have to replace 3 parts with american made onese where one of them can be the mag tube to increase from 5 rounds to 7.

Here is the list of parts that you can replace:

Receiver
Barrel
Bolt
Bolt carrier
Gas piston
Trigger housing
Trigger
Hammer
Disconnector
Buttstock (with integral pistol grip)
Forearm/handguard (forend)
Magazine body
Follower

I always wondered has anyone ever been busted or harassed for adding a +2 tube extension in CA? 922R is a federal law not a CA law so would cops in CA even know or care? I mean how would you be able to even prove you have 3 parts made in America unless you had the old parts in a bag at home or something.

^^^^ THIS

Note that Freedom Fighter Tactical and Carrier Comp both have white papers on their websites that help explain 922R. It's well worth a read. The papers were written specifically with the m4 in mind but it also applies to the m2 and any imported shotgun. I would also think the approved parts list for the m4 and m2 would be pretty identical.

Also note that it doesn't appear if many people have ever been charged for 922R compliance. But it is a federal regulation and not a state regulation...which is a whole other level of suck if they ever do decide to come after you for it.

Lastly note, there are some people who will say that 922R doesn't apply to end consumers and it only applies to a manufacturer. I'm am not interested in having that debate.

Ultimately you will need to decide for yourself if you think this applies to you or if you care. What I will say is that there have been numerous consumers that have written to ATF asking about 922R and what is required to remain compliant for their specific gun. And ATF has responded with instructions. In my opinion, the ATF clearly believes 922R applies to the end consumer...which is good enough for me. YMMV. There are copies of some of these letters posted on the interwebs and you can write them yourself if you want your own letter.

Good luck...and may the odds be ever in your favor!

[naz]

I understand that either ill have a collapsible stock or just fixed stock. I am mainly concerned about adding/modifying/changing thing with my benelli such as a +2 tube

[-hanko]

I think he worried about 922R which is a federal law which also applies to imported semi-auto shotguns like the Benelli.

This is a problem with Benelli M4 to make it 922R compliant you have to replace 3 parts with american made onese where one of them can be the mag tube to increase from 5 rounds to 7.

Here is the list of parts that you can replace:

Receiver
Barrel
Bolt
Bolt carrier
Gas piston
Trigger housing
Trigger
Hammer
Disconnector
Buttstock (with integral pistol grip)
Forearm/handguard (forend)
Magazine body
Follower

I always wondered has anyone ever been busted or harassed for adding a +2 tube extension in CA? 922R is a federal law not a CA law so would cops in CA even know or care? I mean how would you be able to even prove you have 3 parts made in America unless you had the old parts in a bag at home or something.

I've never heard of anyone busted under 922(r). The only harassment has been here, and not from the BATFE. Just typical California gun related paranoia.

FFT and CC have white papers on their sites, probably to sell more parts. I'd not worry about the doom and gloom, and an ATF person I occasionally shoot with hasn't heard of anyone popped under 922(r), and he's been working for > 10 years.

Since parts are normally not identified with country of origin, who knows where they were made.

As I've posted a zillion times, the only BATFE prosecution I've heard of was the owner of Royal Tiger Imports or one of the many names that company has gone by. The issue here was ignoring BATFE's instructions on destroying full auto receivers. That's a hell of a lot more serious than a single shotgun extension tube.

[L84CABO]

I've never heard of anyone busted under 922(r). The only harassment has been here, and not from the BATFE. Just typical California gun related paranoia.

I have not heard of anyone busted for it either. My suspicion has always been it might be something else they throw at you if they've already got you on some other violation.

That said...and when I was doing my m4...the extended mag tube was the goal and something I was going to spend money on anyway. But for another $50 for a Geissele hammer (now no longer available) and $15-ish for a follower, it was fairly cheap to keep it 922r compliant. YMMV

[sfvshooter]

no luck there.

Did you even post there?