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  • rdhays2000
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 71

    Question about the Certificate of Eligilibility

    Hi All,

    I have a question about the certificate of eligibility. Do you have to work for a business or have any kind of FFL to get one, or can anyone get a COE?

    Thanks
  • #2
    Jeffjohns
    Banned
    • Dec 2021
    • 188

    You could be a collector and pair it with your 03FFL and get ammo shipped to your doorstep and not have to do an M a background check anymore

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    • #3
      TKM
      Onward through the fog!
      CGN Contributor
      • Jul 2002
      • 10657

      If you are eligible to buy a firearm in California you can get a Certificate of Eligibility.

      It is a requirement for some jobs but you don't have to have the job first.
      It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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      • #4
        SkyHawk
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Sep 2012
        • 23518

        When you apply DOJ may come back and ask you why you want it, they have in the past. If you have no other reason to be asking for one, you could cite CA PC26710



        26710.
        (a) A person may request a certificate of eligibility from the Department of Justice.
        (b) The Department of Justice shall examine its records and records available to the department in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System in order to determine if the applicant is prohibited by state or federal law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a firearm.
        (c) The department shall issue a certificate to an applicant if the department’s records indicate that the applicant is not a person who is prohibited by state or federal law from possessing firearms.
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        • #5
          CAT112
          Member
          • Jul 2019
          • 107

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          • #6
            Robotron2k84
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2017
            • 2013

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            • #7
              SilveradoColt21
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Sep 2021
              • 2440

              From my understanding if you pair it with an FFL 03 you can get ammo shipped to your doorstep without the FFL background check, that would be the only real reason to get it IMO.
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              • #8
                Helmut
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Oct 2018
                • 907

                Originally posted by SilveradoColt21
                From my understanding if you pair it with an FFL 03 you can get ammo shipped to your doorstep without the FFL background check, that would be the only real reason to get it IMO.

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                • #9
                  SilveradoColt21
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Sep 2021
                  • 2440

                  Oh yeah I forgot about the 1 in 30 exemption, that's also a good one too.
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                  • #10
                    P5Ret
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 6374

                    Originally posted by CAT112
                    (it could be used to build a case for CCW, county permitting)
                    You're going to need to explain that.

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                    • #11
                      9Cal_OC
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2019
                      • 6687

                      Originally posted by CAT112
                      Simply put, as mentioned
                      Preciously, you do not have have to have any special reason to get a CoE. You do have to select why your are getting it (ie, employee, manufacturer, ammo sales, etc) but you can select any reason that applies to you.
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                      • #12
                        NorCalRT
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 1327

                        Originally posted by SkyHawk
                        When you apply DOJ may come back and ask you why you want it, they have in the past. If you have no other reason to be asking for one, you could cite CA PC26710

                        https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=26710
                        Where would you state that? I can select other, but then it limits me to like 40 characters to explain. I just got mine marked incomplete for no FFL number, but Im still waiting on my 03 to arrive, they took my money maybe 5 weeks ago. Any help would be appreciated.

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                        • #13
                          jben
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1994

                          See if reading through this thread can help you out.

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                          • #14
                            Quiet
                            retired Goon
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 30242

                            Originally posted by SkyHawk
                            When you apply DOJ may come back and ask you why you want it, they have in the past. If you have no other reason to be asking for one, you could cite CA PC26710

                            https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=26710
                            Penal Code 26710
                            (a) A person may request a certificate of eligibility from the Department of Justice.
                            (b) The Department of Justice shall examine its records and records available to the department in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System in order to determine if the applicant is prohibited by state or federal law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a firearm.
                            (c) The department shall issue a certificate to an applicant if the department’s records indicate that the applicant is not a person who is prohibited by state or federal law from possessing firearms.
                            (d) The department shall adopt regulations to administer the certificate of eligibility program and shall recover the full costs of administering the program by imposing fees assessed to applicants who apply for those certificates.

                            California Code of Regulations Title 11 Division 5 Chapter 3 Article 3 Section 4035
                            Applicant Information.
                            (a) Once a CFARS account has been created, the initial application form for a COE is located on CFARS under the link “Certificate of Eligibility (COE).”
                            (b) Initial COE applicants shall electronically provide the following information to complete the application:
                            (1) Applicant's full name; driver license type and number or California identification number; date of birth; residence street address; phone number; gender; ATI number; business type(s); United States citizenship; if not a United States citizen, the country of citizenship and the federal Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Number or federal I-94 number. The application shall also require additional information requesting responses to questions asking if the applicant: 1) is a current COE holder; and 2) has submitted COE fingerprint impressions through a live scan provider, as required by section 4032.5.
                            (A) If applicant is applying for a COE as an employee of a California Firearms Dealer (CFD), applicant shall provide the name of the dealer, the dealer address, the dealer store number if applicable, the dealer's CFD number, and the COE number provided by the employer.
                            (B) If applicant is applying for a COE as an employee of a California Ammunition Vendor (CAV), applicant shall provide the name of the ammunition vendor, the ammunition vendor address, the ammunition vendor store number if applicable, the vendor's CAV number, and the COE number provided by the employer.
                            (C) If applicant is applying for a COE as an employee of both a CFD and a CAV, the applicant shall list only the CFD information as specified in subdivision (b)(1)(A) of this section.
                            (D) If applicant is applying for a COE as an employee of a California Firearm Precursor Part Vendor (CFPPV), applicant shall provide the name of the Firearm Precursor Part Vendor, the vendor's address, the vendor's store number if applicable, the vendor's CFPPV number, and the COE number provided by the employer.
                            (E) If applicant is applying for a COE as an employee of both a CFD and a CFPPV, the applicant shall list only the CFD information as specified in subdivision (b)(1)(A) of this section.
                            (2) Applicant shall agree to the following Department Privacy Notice:
                            (A) Collection and Use of Personal Information: the Division of Law Enforcement, Bureau of Firearms in the Department of Justice collects the information requested as authorized by Penal Code Section 26710. The Bureau of Firearms uses this information to establish grounds for the issuance of the license or permit indicated on this application. In addition, any personal information collected by state agencies is subject to the limitations in the Information Practices Act and state policy. The Department of Justice's general privacy policy is available at http://oag.ca.gov/privacy-policy.
                            (B) Providing Personal Information: all the personal information requested must be provided. If you fail to provide all personal information requested, your application will not be accepted.
                            (C) Access to Your Information: you may review the records maintained by the Division of Law Enforcement, Bureau of Firearms in the Department of Justice that contain your personal information, as permitted by the Information Practices Act. See below for contact information.
                            (D) Possible Disclosure of Personal Information: in order to establish grounds for the issuance of the certificate, we may need to share the information you provide us with any Bureau of Firearms representative or other person designated by the Attorney General upon request. The information provided may also be disclosed in the following circumstances:
                            (i) With other persons or agencies when necessary to perform their legal duties, and their use of your information is compatible and complies with state law, such as for investigations, licensing, certification, or regulatory purposes;
                            (ii) To another government agency as required by state or federal law.
                            (E) Contact Information: for questions about this notice or access to your records, you may contact the Staff Services Analyst at the Bureau of Firearms at (916) 210-2300, via email firearms.bureau@doj.ca.gov, or by mail at P.O. Box 160487 Sacramento, CA 95816-0487.
                            (3) Applicant shall agree to the following personal declaration:
                            (A) I certify under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State of California that the foregoing is true and correct. I expressly authorize the Department of Justice (DOJ) to perform firearms eligibility checks of all relevant state and federal databases. I further understand that if I knowingly furnish a fictitious name or address or knowingly furnish any incorrect information or omit any information required to be provided on this application, I may be subject to civil or criminal penalties to the full extent of the law.
                            (c) Applicant shall submit fingerprints for a COE to the Department for a firearms eligibility background check as specified in section 4032.5 before submitting the electronic application.
                            (d) Applicant shall submit the appropriate COE fees as specified in subdivision (b)(1) of section 4038 to the live scan operator before submitting the electronic application.
                            Last edited by Quiet; 05-10-2022, 8:08 AM.
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                            • #15
                              SkyHawk
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 23518

                              Originally posted by NorCalRT
                              Where would you state that? I can select other, but then it limits me to like 40 characters to explain. I just got mine marked incomplete for no FFL number, but Im still waiting on my 03 to arrive, they took my money maybe 5 weeks ago. Any help would be appreciated.
                              See this post - you probably have to email it, although "PC26710 SHALL ISSUE" is less than 40 characters by my count

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