DROS got denied and next step

[MarineMA]

[Oldmandan]

Typically the FFL would call him and tell him he was denied. they would discuss and he would ask them to resubmit at no charge, based on the extension letter snafoo.

Does Riflesupply still have the gun in their possession anymore? He would need to reDROS it if possible

Your friends inaction may have cost him a lot of money at this point.

[SkyHawk]

The dealer does not submit green card extension letters, or letters from mom or Joe Biden etc. The *only* thing submitted to DOJ is what fits on that DROS form, in boxes that have limited selections although there is a comments box IIRC.

So it has nothing to do with that letter being copied or not. It still may have something to do with his residency and how the DROS was processed related to his residency or it could be something else.

He should carefully examine his denied DROS and compare it to his his most recent successful DROS. Look for differences.

Also it is hard to tell from your post - did he finally get a denial letter from DOJ, or no?

[SharedShots]

If there was a gap between the expiration of the green card and the application for extension (a very common problem) that would likely trigger the denial. HS will process extensions; however, that doesn't always mean the extension will always get processed before the green card's expiration date. I am not 100% certain but even the gap could cause a snafu because it could be they overstayed their green card and that showed up. Pretty sure green cards are still valid for 10 years from date of issue so it can be easy for people to forget to renew them and then get caught up in extensions while they renew. A lot of people get caught up in this.

For example, a green card holder could leave the country with an extension in process. There is no prohibition to leaving the country on a foreign passport while having a green card that is set to expire during the time of absence from the USA. When they try to return though, there is a check, you won't be allowed to get on the plane. You'll end up staying in country waiting for the extension to finish processing. When that happens contacting your Senator (fed not state legislature) can speed things along.

In the USA it's less of a hassle but the expiration date and the extension date can easily not coincide and thus for many situations the green card is invalid even though the extension is in process.

Have your friend check the dates of their green card expiration and the date the extension was processed. All the info they need to check should be on the extension letter. Green cards used to have the expiration date right on the front, not sure if they do anymore.

Better get on this if that was the reason for the denial because the application to purchase can become part of a permanent record (trying to buy a gun without legal status in the USA) and marking the form saying they are in the country legally. A big no no.

[MarineMA]

Typically the FFL would call him and tell him he was denied. they would discuss and he would ask them to resubmit at no charge, based on the extension letter snafoo.

Does Riflesupply still have the gun in their possession anymore? He would need to reDROS it if possible

Your friends inaction may have cost him a lot of money at this point.

Riflesupply informed him of the denial when he wanted to pick up the P320. And they said they could not resubmit the DROS with the extension letter. We will go to Riflesupply and ask them again. Thank you bro!

[MarineMA]

The dealer does not submit green card extension letters, or letters from mom or Joe Biden etc. The *only* thing submitted to DOJ is what fits on that DROS form, in boxes that have limited selections although there is a comments box IIRC.

So it has nothing to do with that letter being copied or not. It still may have something to do with his residency and how the DROS was processed related to his residency or it could be something else.

He should carefully examine his denied DROS and compare it to his his most recent successful DROS. Look for differences.

Also it is hard to tell from your post - did he finally get a denial letter from DOJ, or no?

[MarineMA]

If there was a gap between the expiration of the green card and the application for extension (a very common problem) that would likely trigger the denial. HS will process extensions; however, that doesn't always mean the extension will always get processed before the green card's expiration date. I am not 100% certain but even the gap could cause a snafu because it could be they overstayed their green card and that showed up. Pretty sure green cards are still valid for 10 years from date of issue so it can be easy for people to forget to renew them and then get caught up in extensions while they renew. A lot of people get caught up in this.

For example, a green card holder could leave the country with an extension in process. There is no prohibition to leaving the country on a foreign passport while having a green card that is set to expire during the time of absence from the USA. When they try to return though, there is a check, you won't be allowed to get on the plane. You'll end up staying in country waiting for the extension to finish processing. When that happens contacting your Senator (fed not state legislature) can speed things along.

In the USA it's less of a hassle but the expiration date and the extension date can easily not coincide and thus for many situations the green card is invalid even though the extension is in process.

Have your friend check the dates of their green card expiration and the date the extension was processed. All the info they need to check should be on the extension letter. Green cards used to have the expiration date right on the front, not sure if they do anymore.

[SharedShots]

The problem is he didn’t receive the denial letter from DOJ. It has been almost 2 months since the denial was told by FFL. Thanks anyway!

Is the address linked to his green card and his actual address the same? Time to really deep dive into his green card status info because one thing can trigger other problems. The gap i only one potential issue if it's the green card at all. Maybe he just got caught up in what so many others are experiencing.

IOW, did he apply for the extension while living at some other address or use a different address for the application? It's likely a letter got sent, to where is the question.

Where I your friend, at this point I'd start checking all the info and making sure everything is matching up. I'd do this before making lots of inquiries too because gotchas can be a real headache and difficult to unravel. The last thing your friend needs is to explain one thing or resubmit only to have other questions come up. I've seen this happen to people that are squeaky clean. If he's intending to go for citizenship all the more reason to just do a look-see.

A denial for anything related to his status should be the warning to make sure everything is beyond question. That can only be to his benefit.

[MarineMA]

Is the address linked to his green card and his actual address the same? Time to really deep dive into his green card status info because one thing can trigger other problems. The gap i only one potential issue if it's the green card at all. Maybe he just got caught up in what so many others are experiencing.

IOW, did he apply for the extension while living at some other address or use a different address for the application? It's likely a letter got sent, to where is the question.

Where I your friend, at this point I'd start checking all the info and making sure everything is matching up. I'd do this before making lots of inquiries too because gotchas can be a real headache and difficult to unravel. The last thing your friend needs is to explain one thing or resubmit only to have other questions come up. I've seen this happen to people that are squeaky clean. If he's intending to go for citizenship all the more reason to just do a look-see.

A denial for anything related to his status should be the warning to make sure everything is beyond question. That can only be to his benefit.

Thanks bro for your decent advice! I am forwarding your suggestion to my friend and ask him to carefully check everything related to his green card, including but not limited to expiration date, address, validation period of the extension letter, etc. I hope it be a simple mistake by DOJ. Thanks a lot bro!

[My600]

If you have a 10 years Green Card then expiration has nothing to do with the extension, all you have to do is reapply and pay the processing fees. Done!

Meanwhile, some Green Cards are valid for only 2 years, after 2 years the immigration process (Form I-485) have to start over again, then extension letter is temporary while the application is the processing. This could be the case (My sister-in-law experienced the same thing)

Good luck to him

[naz]

[edgerly779]

By now the firearm should be back in sellers possession or at police dept. Why would ffl hold firearm.

[My600]

The seller has to pay the fees to DROS back to his name

[Djantlive]

Maybe your friend should take some responsibility and be proactive.

[edgerly779]

M600 ^^^ Fud. Lots of posts on this. I had couple buyers fail and I went back to ffl signed release and left. Gave all but gas money back to buyer.