Gun Effects sucks

[SarcoBlaster]

Met another Calgunner at Gun Effects in City of Industry yesterday morning for a PPT. We both got there about 15-20 minutes before they opened in case there was a line (there wasn’t) and about 10 minutes before opening, an employee stuck his head out and asked if we were there for a PPT. We told him we were and he said they weren’t able to process any PPTs because they filed their licensing paperwork that was still being processed by the DOJ, the DOJ is understaffed which is why it’s taking longer than usual to process said paperwork, and the system was down which was also affecting a few other FFLs in the area.

At least stick with a believable lie instead of throwing 3 unrelated reasons out in the same sentence. Two other FFLs in the area didn’t seem to have any issues doing PPTs. Funny how the guy who showed up after us to purchase a firearm wasn’t stopped at the door and told that the system was down and they couldn’t process any DROSes.

Gun Effects …………

[auser6664]

CA DOJ should allow FFLs to charge more than $10 for PPT. Win-win. Happy customer. Happy dealer.

[Yodaman]

I have been there 3 times where they told me the exact same thing. One of those times they placed a piece of paper on the outside of the window and asked that those in line leave their names AND phone numbers and then wait to be called when the "system was working." I wasn't even there for a PPT.

They use to be reliable, now I wouldn't even return. I have heard that they don't always renew their COE and that's part of their problem.

[Yodaman]

CA DOJ should allow FFLs to charge more than $10 for PPT. Win-win. Happy customer. Happy dealer.

Or...they should just operate within the lines they agreed to when signing that FFL.

[SarcoBlaster]

CA DOJ should allow FFLs to charge more than $10 for PPT. Win-win. Happy customer. Happy dealer.

I missed the part where we were holding up the non-existent line of people.

Not being lying sacks of crap makes happy customers.

[auser6664]

Or...they should just operate within the lines they agreed to when signing that FFL.

Nah..$10 is just too little. 4% CC fees on $48 PPT. 6-10 sheets of paper. Printer. Internet. Electricity.

Especially when the CA DOJ fees went up from $25 to $38.

[auser6664]

I missed the part where we were holding up the non-existent line of people.

Not being lying sacks of crap makes happy customers.

[SarcoBlaster]

[auser6664]

Totally agree on that!

[Yodaman]

Nah..$10 is just too little. 4% CC fees on $48 PPT. 6-10 sheets of paper. Printer. Internet. Electricity.

Especially when the CA DOJ fees went up from $25 to $38.

$10 Seems about fair. It costs 1-6 cents to keep the lights on for 1 hour maybe less with LED lights. 4 cents for each sheet of paper. 15 minutes of an employee's time paid at $15 an hour.....$10 is good. Storage fees for 10 days is part of the game, plus most users random items from the seller. And make it cash only to save on CC fees.

So, seems about right

[auser6664]

$10 Seems about fair. It costs 1-6 cents to keep the lights on for 1 hour maybe less with LED lights. 4 cents for each sheet of paper. 15 minutes of an employee's time paid at $15 an hour.....$10 is good. Storage fees for 10 days is part of the game, plus most users random items from the seller.

So, seems about right

[Epaphroditus]

Need to repeal that stupid law and return to PPT with a handshake. Like civilized folk instead of assuming we are all criminals and have to prove worthiness via background check.

[Yodaman]

Any FFL taking more than 15 mins needs to do things better. Riflegear, OC indoor and others have you in and out in 15 or less.

Again, take cash only for PPT's

[edgerly779]

No ffl should take credit cards for dros unless fees added on. I have never heard of 1.

[The Gleam]

CA DOJ should allow FFLs to charge more than $10 for PPT. Win-win. Happy customer. Happy dealer.

I do not agree.

Any other retail store doesn't have the advantage of legal obligations that force customers to cross the threshold of their store, and pay $10 to do it.

This has been addressed many times: you have one guy as party to the PPT who just came into a good wad of cash, and another guy that just bought a gun for which he is an easy sale on ammo and accessories for that gun - and they are paying YOU $10 to come into your store to do it, where in many other states, they would not need to go to a gun store at all for a PPT.

If a gun store can't make an additional sale off of one, or even both of these guys - they suck at their job, business, and life.

Getting paid $10, and in on the take so designed by are illustrious anti-2nd Amendment government, to have 2 such customers forced into their store, where otherwise they would need to pay 100 times that much in advertising just to net the same - is a steal.

Add to that, a LOT of dealers did not ever disagree with this requirement or oppose bills that came up making it law, as they felt it was a win-win situation for them: things like the Roster and banning FTF for long-guns 50 years and older in 2014.

Yeah, a lot of those dealers were seeing dollar-signs over those and gave 0 opposition over them because of it.

So no, I have no sympathy for having to pay them for $5 worth of paperwork and gun storage for less than 30 days, for the fact that few fought those laws in the first place, and they get the advantage of 2 porential cash-cows at their beck and call to garner additional sales.

And the idea that it's taking away from other sales is nonsense. Plenty of times such zero-sales talent jackwads turn down PPTs even when no other customers are in the store, because the store is more of a hobby and old-wives tales club for losers to gab all day and submit to beer-belly competitions, rather than actually running a business.

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