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  • Greg-Dawg
    Banned
    • Oct 2006
    • 7793

    Bush owns Saddam's...

    ...Glock 18C.



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    Bush memento once owned by foe may go on display

    When the library for George W. Bush opens in 2013 on the Southern Methodist University campus in Dallas, visitors will likely get to see one of Bush's most treasured items: the 9 millimeter Glock 18C found in the hole where Saddam Hussein was captured.

    By DON VAN NATTA Jr. The New York Times


    Published: Monday, July 6, 2009 at 1:00 a.m.
    Last Modified: Sunday, July 5, 2009 at 10:46 p.m.

    Many American presidents have kept prized possessions within reach during their White House years. Franklin D. Roosevelt cherished a 19th century ship model of the USS Constitution. One of Dwight D. Eisenhower's favorite gifts was an engraved Steuben glass bowl from his Cabinet. And sitting on John F. Kennedy's desk in the Oval Office was a paperweight made from a coconut shell he had carved with a distress message after his PT-109 was sunk during World War II.

    The objects have been bequeathed to the American public, accessible through a visit to each man's presidential library and museum.

    And so when the library for George W. Bush opens in 2013 on the campus of Southern Methodist University in Dallas, visitors will most likely get to see one of his most treasured items: Saddam Hussein's pistol.

    The gun, a 9 millimeter Glock 18C, was found in the spider hole where the Iraqi leader was captured in December 2003 by Delta Force soldiers, four of whom later presented the pistol to Bush.
    Among the thousands of gifts he received as president, the gun became a favorite, a reminder of the pinnacle moment of the Iraq war, according to friends and longtime associates.

    Before Bush left the White House in January, he made arrangements for the gun to be shipped to a national archives warehouse just 18 miles north of his new home in Dallas.

    His foundation said a final decision had not been made on including the gun in the presidential library. But his associates and visitors to the White House said Bush had told them of his intention to display it there.

    For nearly five years, Bush kept the mounted, glass-encased pistol in the Oval Office or a study, showing it with pride, especially to military officials, they said. He also let visitors in on a secret: When the pistol was recovered, it was unloaded.

    One longtime friend of Bush, who like others spoke on condition of anonymity, said the gun had become as important to Bush as the police shield given to him by Arlene Howard, the mother of a New York Port Authority officer, George Howard, who died on Sept. 11. He still keeps the shield with him, the friend said.

    The gun is one of 40,000 artifacts and gifts the Bushes had collected, including the bullhorn Bush used to address rescue workers at ground zero and a special-edition Cooperstown baseball bat signed by every living Hall of Famer.

    The George W. Bush Presidential Center will cost $200 million. More than $100 million has already been donated, according to several of Bush's friends.The odyssey of the gun began on Dec. 13, 2003, when Saddam was discovered in the 8-foot-deep hole on a farm near Tikrit. Steve Russell, a retired Army lieutenant colonel who helped lead the mission and is now a Oklahoma state senator, said Saddam had been crouched on all fours, the gun on the floor.

    In early 2004, one of the soldiers came up with the idea of presenting the gun to Bush. On March 1 that year, the Delta Force men surprised the president with the pistol at an Oval Office meeting.
  • #2
    Turbinator
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    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 11935

    Interesting. I distinctly remember that the handgun found *on* Saddam was a HiPower, though. I guess this one was an extra that he kept, although unloaded? Odd.

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    • #3
      Darklyte27
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      • May 2008
      • 9372

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      • #4
        hybridatsun350
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        • Apr 2007
        • 5336

        I didn't realize Glock 18's were so easily transfered... lol
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        • #5
          emilio
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          • Jun 2009
          • 393

          the image of Saddam trying to control a G18 on "F" makes me giggle. it immediately reminded me of the scene from Hot Shots! Part Deux where Saddam is spraying Beretta 93R's everywhere, still wearing his sleeping mask.

          - emilio

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          • #6
            gadjeep
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            • May 2009
            • 1942

            Hard to complete a PPT when the transferor is swinging from a short rope.
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            • #7
              odysseus
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              • #8
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                • Oct 2005
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                Must have been fun explaining that presentation to the Secret Service, too.

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                • #9
                  tgriffin
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 5175

                  One of my dream guns.
                  Originally posted by pullnshoot25
                  I would love to have a hole cut in the ceiling so I could pop out and BAM! Hit 'em with my spice weasel...
                  Originally posted by aileron
                  The hassle would be between this. (_._) and this (_0_).
                  Originally posted by Neil McCauley
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                  • #10
                    CAL.BAR
                    CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 5632

                    Originally posted by hybridatsun350
                    I didn't realize Glock 18's were so easily transfered... lol
                    Yeah - ever try to import a firearm from out of the country? Not an easy thing.

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                    • #11
                      CAL.BAR
                      CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 5632

                      Great - an $830 BILLION dollar handgun. Hope GB thinks it was worth it.

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                      • #12
                        nick
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                        • Aug 2008
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                        So Saddam UOCed? Right, his party was Socialist
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                        • #13
                          tgriffin
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                          • Nov 2006
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                          Originally posted by nick
                          So Saddam UOCed? Right, his party was Socialist
                          I LOLed
                          Originally posted by pullnshoot25
                          I would love to have a hole cut in the ceiling so I could pop out and BAM! Hit 'em with my spice weasel...
                          Originally posted by aileron
                          The hassle would be between this. (_._) and this (_0_).
                          Originally posted by Neil McCauley
                          When Im wearing a miniskirt than yeah sure I use my foot to flush the urinals all the time!

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                          • #14
                            hawk1
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                            Originally posted by djandj
                            Great - an $830 BILLION dollar handgun. Hope GB thinks it was worth it.
                            Yep, worth every penny too...
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                            • #15
                              dragonbait1a
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 596

                              Must have been an interesting conversation with the ATF.

                              Importing a machine-gun and transferring it to the President. As it was (reportedly) Delta that did it I seriously doubt the paperwork was filed in "traditional" way.

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