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  • heyasiankid
    Member
    • Dec 2016
    • 368

    Revolver makes you a better semi shooter?

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    Verdha603
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2019
    • 882

    If you primarily shoot DA/SA semi-auto pistols then he has a somewhat valid argument; the revolver lets you practice DA shot's six times over without having to decock it every time, so for getting practice becoming a better shot on your DA trigger pulls then it is a positive thing.

    Otherwise, it really won't make you a better shot; if his argument is that shooting a revolver will make you less of a "spray and pray" shooter compared to a semi automatic, then I have a bridge I want to sell you, seeing as the same person that can't use proper shooting fundamentals with a semi is not going to magically turn into a marksman just by handing them a revolver instead; he would most likely be disappointed to see that same shooter now blowing through cylinder after cylinder of ammunition and still trying to say a revolver is not a "spray and pray" weapon after the person still hasn't managed to hit what they aim at due to lack of basic marksmanship fundamentals and watching them keep yanking the trigger over and over until it goes click instead of bang.

    That becomes especially true when I have to listen to some of the numb nuts that think shooting .357's out of a snubnose revolver is going to magically make someone care about making their individual shots count, when more often you've just given that person's hand a thorough beating and convinced the person to never want to shoot one again and go back to whatever larger handgun they were using before.

    Bottom line is find a handgun you like to shoot, that doesn't have an unmanageable amount of recoil, and sink a ton of money into ammunition and magazines if the handgun takes them, and preferably find an introductory handgun course to attend, and just focus on getting good at hitting what you aim at with whatever handgun you've decided you just really like shooting.

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    • #3
      theLBC
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Oct 2017
      • 6690

      maybe, but ime the action on a nice revolver is smoother than my da/sa guns.

      i use a laserlyte and practice da trigger control with dry fire constantly.

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      • #4
        tabascoz28
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2016
        • 3364

        Jimmi Hendrix played a right handed guitar left handed. I'm sure there's a shooter out there that can shoot gangster style as well as Jerry M. Its all about practice... It took me a long time to hold the trigger after firing but before then i was still shooting the staples off my targets at 15yds.

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        • #5
          IVC
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jul 2010
          • 17594

          It's partially true, but it gets technical...

          You can learn everything on the semi-auto and, if you learn correctly, you don't need revolver to help you with the process. However, if you don't learn correctly or don't know what you're supposed to do, then revolver can indeed help. But, there is another "however," which is that you have to shoot the revolver in the true double action mode, not stacking the trigger to the wall, then adding a bit of pressure to shoot more accurately - that's a "simulated single action" mode that will let you make the same mistakes as when shooting a semi-auto.

          The trick is in how it all actually works. Proper shooting consists of "keeping sights on the target while operating the trigger." The shot doesn't end with the sear release, the sear release happens while you keep the gun aimed at the target. You can't aim, say "now," then just concentrate on the trigger pull and expect to hit where you stopped aiming when you decided to pull the trigger. It's not "aim, fire," it's "operate the trigger while aiming." You end up with a certain amount of follow-through (a highly misunderstood concept) simply because you keep aiming until you recognize that the shot has been fired, and this happens a bit later after the sear release - it includes your time to react.

          Because of how this works, if you shoot a revolver in the DA mode *without stacking*, you will be forced to keep aiming while operating the trigger and you won't be able to do the incorrect "now, stop aiming, pull the trigger." In this respect revolver is a great tool to get you going on the correct path. It's also good from time to time to shoot revolver and polish your patience with the follow through and confirming the sights with the acceptable sigh picture, but this is a much more advanced training/polishing.
          sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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          • #6
            hermosabeach
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2009
            • 19291

            What he is saying is Learn to shoot

            Pull the trigger without moving the gun


            Probably easier to learn on a striker or single action firearm



            Learn to more the short light trigger

            Then go advanced - longer and heavier trigger.



            Learn to ride a bike before a motorcycle
            Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

            Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

            Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

            Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
            (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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            • #7
              n8vrmind
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2017
              • 1463

              Does you buddy also practice with a black powder muzzle loader?

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              • #8
                ysr_racer
                Banned
                • Mar 2006
                • 12014

                I compete with both a S&W revolver and a 1911 pattern Para Ordnance.

                They have no relation to each other.

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                • #9
                  hambam105
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 7083

                  10 bucks says the person giving the shooting advice can't hit chit with either the revolver or the semiauto.

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                  • #10
                    heyasiankid
                    Member
                    • Dec 2016
                    • 368

                    https://youtu.be/oZaxay1eXks

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                    • #11
                      rodralig
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 4262

                      Originally posted by heyasiankid
                      Thanks for all the inputs. To clarify a little bit more he’s stating improved overall accuracy in handguns in general (da/sa’s). They also think beginners and people new to firearms should learn on a revolver. As it would make shooting easier to learn / and become more accurate.

                      They mentioned a little practice with a da revolver would increase overall accuracy. By trigger press and pacing and flinching. Their argument led to them providing me a YouTube video https://youtu.be/oZaxay1eXks

                      From what I’m getting I’m assuming yes, shooting a DA revolver can improve accuracy but the same can also be done with just practicing with a gun you regularly use if not become better.

                      Boiling it down to: would it be better to shoot revolvers for individuals brand new to the gun world to learn and get accurate? Then switch to a semi to learn?

                      Would this even matter if you have a semi da/sa?
                      Just ask your friend to shoot some standard drill and share the results with us. Let us compare the performance with those that learned from semi and still shoot with semi.

                      While talk and theory are easy, it is the hits at speed that counts.


                      Originally posted by hambam105
                      10 bucks says the person giving the shooting advice can't hit chit with either the revolver or the semiauto.
                      I will take that for $20!


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                      WEGC - Shooting at 10-yards VS 20-yards - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7mdbNZ4j9U

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                      • #12
                        Rob454
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 11254


                        What makes a good shooter is practice. And using the same gun helps. I prefer revolvers but it makes little difference to me. As long as the gun is a decent action because i shot some stuff that felt like the action was made of sand.

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                        • #13
                          tanks
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 4038

                          Rob Leatham (24 times USPSA champion) started Nils Johansson (multiple times USPSA and world champion) on revolvers as a kid to get the fundamentals down.
                          "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
                          "A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - Unknown

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                          • #14
                            FNGGlock
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2020
                            • 1289

                            Shooting a good DA revolver is fun, and does help me personally do better with semis. I tend to get sloppy from time to time and a DA revolver tells on you quickly if you get sloppy I can see that it can be helpful for some people to train and learn, not sure if it holds true universally.

                            Try it and see.

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                            • #15
                              Nvberinger
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2018
                              • 729

                              Since my revolver is a 357, I practice recoil control.

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