Wyze launches its new gun safe

[SVT-40]

If it meets the construction standards for a gun safe, it's a safe even if it's size is such that it appears to be a lock box. From the manufacturers description, it's a gun safe and not a lock box. The specs don't speak to the boltwork size but if it meets the criteria then it's a gun safe.

It has the correct gauge steel and type of hinges.

"A gun safe that meets all of the following standards:

Shall be able to fully contain firearms and provide for their secure storage.

Shall have a locking system consisting of at minimum a mechanical or electronic combination lock. The mechanical or electronic combination lock utilized by the safe shall have at least 10,000 possible combinations consisting of a minimum three numbers, letters, or symbols. The lock shall be protected by a case hardened (Rc 60+) drill resistant steel plate, or drill resistant material of equivalent strength.

Boltwork shall consist of a minimum of three steel locking bolts of at least 1/2-inch thickness that intrude from the door of the safe into the body of the safe or from the body of the safe into the door of the safe, which are operated by a separate handle and secured by the lock.

A gun safe shall be capable of repeated use.

The exterior walls shall be constructed of a minimum 12-gauge thick steel for a single walled safe, or the sum of the steel walls shall add up to at least 0.100 inches for safes with two walls. Doors shall be constructed of a minimum one layer of 7-gauge steel plate reinforced construction or at least two layers of a minimum 12-gauge steel compound construction.
Door hinges shall be protected to prevent the removal of the door. Protective features include, but are not limited to: hinges not exposed to the outside, interlocking door designs, dead bars, jeweler's lugs and active or inactive locking bolts.

A gun safe that is able to fully contain firearms and provide for their secure storage, and is certified to/listed as meeting Underwriters Laboratories Residential Security Container rating standards by a Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory (NRTL)."

Source: https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/gunsafe






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LOL.

In every other state than California it's a lock box.

If you can carry it in one hand it's a lock box. Not a safe.

Just because the crazies in California say it's a safe doesn't make it a safe.

[middleofnowhere]

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Biometric-Shotgun-Fingerprint-Safe-Hand-Gun_1600206728481.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_title.52ba339dVZA3PX

[The Tiger]

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Biometric-Shotgun-Fingerprint-Safe-Hand-Gun_1600206728481.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_title.52ba339dVZA3PX

Then you post a link to a different looking box, albeit similar, that cost $50 (not $25) and requires you to order 50 units? I don't need 50 of them

[Marauder2003]

I tweeted him to review it.

Waiting for lockpickinglawyer from YouTube to open it with a magnet or fork

[rodralig]

Pass

I find the initial evolutions of Wyze products to be unreliable… Going through several patches/iterations. I will not risk that on a quick access gun safe as above.



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[CessnaDriver]

I gave it a shot and ordered. I was looking to update an old one and get fingerprint ability. It's behind another layer of security and well out of sight so I never needed epic security from them.

[SharedShots]

LOL.

In every other state than California it's a lock box.

If you can carry it in one hand it's a lock box. Not a safe.

Just because the crazies in California say it's a safe doesn't make it a safe.

It doesn't matter what you or I say nor what anyone in any other state says, this is Calguns not (insert state)guns and if the crazies in California say its a safe then in California it's a safe. While I wouldn't use this, that too is irrelevant.

I'm not agreeing with the definition but it is what it is. I doubt many people here like the gun laws in California but they exist.

If the definition allows someone to secure their gun in compliance with the laws in California then arguing it's not a safe is just People in California either comply with it's laws, can move out or try to change them but not following them just puts everything one thinks about any freedom and liberty at risk.

Strange, never see anyone telling those in California to not comply with the laws offering their cash to help out with legal defense or take their place in jail but thats another story.




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[Quiet]

The Wyze Labs locked container meets the CA requirements for a "firearm safety device". [11 CCR 4094]

The Wyze Labs locked container does not meet the CA requirements for a "gun safe". [11 CCR 4100]

The Wyze Labs locked container is, currently, not listed on the CA DOJ Roster of Firearm Safety Devices Certified for Sale.
^Which means proof of having this is not acceptable form of showing proof of owning a firearm safety device in order for a dealer to transfer a firearm. [PC 23635(c)]



California Code of Regulations Title 11 Division 5 Chapter 6 Article 4 Section 4094
Firearms Safety Device Standards.
(a) The FSD shall be of a design that will not allow its removal or deactivation except by utilizing a key, combination, or other unique method as intended by the manufacturer to allow access only by authorized users, within the standards set forth in these regulations.
(1) Combination locking systems shall have a minimum of 1,000 possible unique combinations consisting of a minimum of three numbers, letters, or symbols per combination.
(2) Key locking systems shall be unique to the manufacturer's FSD(s).
(b) The FSD shall render the firearm inoperable (unable to be fired) while the FSD is properly installed. The firearm shall be rendered inoperable immediately upon installation and activation of the FSD. Lock box style FSDs (devices that fully contain and enclose the firearm) must prevent removal of, and access to, the enclosed firearm.
(c) An FSD shall function by at least one of the following methods:
(1) By blocking travel of the trigger, striker, firing pin, or hammer.
(2) By preventing the action or cylinder from closing.
(3) By preventing the chamber(s) from accepting or holding a live cartridge.
(4) By preventing access to the firearm.
(d) When used in the manner designed and intended by the manufacturer, the FSD shall be capable of repeated use and shall pass the testing procedures described in these regulations.
(e) The FSD shall be capable of withstanding manipulation with common household tools, as described in section 4095 - Testing Procedures, for an approximate ten-minute period without being disabled.

California Code of Regulations Title 11 Division 5 Chapter 6 Article 4 Section 4100
Gun Safe Standards.
An acceptable gun safe is either one the following:
(a) A gun safe that meets all of the following standards:
(1) Shall be able to fully contain firearms and provide for their secure storage.
(2) Shall have a locking system consisting of at minimum a mechanical or electronic combination lock. The mechanical or electronic combination lock utilized by the safe shall have at least 10,000 possible combinations consisting of a minimum three numbers, letters, or symbols. The lock shall be protected by a case-hardened (Rc 60+) drill-resistant steel plate, or drill-resistant material of equivalent strength.
(3) Boltwork shall consist of a minimum of three steel locking bolts of at least 1/2-inch thickness that intrude from the door of the safe into the body of the safe or from the body of the safe into the door of the safe, which are operated by a separate handle and secured by the lock.
(4) A gun safe shall be capable of repeated use. The exterior walls shall be constructed of a minimum 12-gauge thick steel for a single-walled safe, or the sum of the steel walls shall add up to at least 0.100 inches for safes with two walls. Doors shall be constructed of a minimum one layer of 7-gauge steel plate reinforced construction or at least two layers of a minimum 12-gauge steel compound construction.
(5) Door hinges shall be protected to prevent the removal of the door. Protective features include, but are not limited to: hinges not exposed to the outside, interlocking door designs, dead bars, jeweler's lugs and active or inactive locking bolts.
(b) A gun safe that is able to fully contain firearms and provide for their secure storage, and is certified to/listed as meeting Underwriters Laboratories Residential Security Container rating standards by a Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory (NRTL).

Penal Code 23635

[Epaphroditus]

A solution in search of a problem.

[beanz2]

Is this the lock box version of the Armatix gun?

[SVT-40]

I have a similar sized quick access safe. You cant carry it as its bolted into the cabinet its in.

I kinda like the Wyze. It is a standard electronic safe, but comes with remote opening, if you ever had to open it for your kid after he calls you that there is a bad guy in the house while he is alone. Just made that up, Im sure there are other situations where you might wanna open the safe remotely for someone in the house.

They other things it does is that it will keep an access log, report it to you, programming the biometric lock can be via the app which is much easier, remote add a guest code and you can lock out a user remotely (users can have their own codes and finger prints.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1lzp7B8lVM

What you have is a lock box... I have a lock box bolted to a piece of furniture also. Being bolted to furniture doesn't make a lock box a safe.

Read the post above by Quiet .

Does your lock box have three 1/2" steel locking lugs on either the body or door of your lock box?

That the minimum requirement for a "safe"

[badfish71]

Bluetooth?? Yeah, HARD pass.

[M1NM]

If it meets the construction standards for a gun safe, it's a safe .......Boltwork shall consist of a minimum of three steel locking bolts of at least 1/2-inch thickness that intrude from the door of the safe into the body of the safe or from the body of the safe into the door of the safe, which are operated by a separate handle and secured by the lock.
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NOT a safe - one locking point in center of lid. Just pry the corner up to see what's in it.

[SVT-40]

Yeah, ok. I have a safe with 1/4 inch plate. I have a couple of these mini gun safes around the house for safekeeping within easy reach. They have a purpose. I cant have nor do I want more than one 1200 pound safe in the house.

Cool.. you have a real safe, and a few lock boxes...

So do I. I just don't call the lock boxes safes...

I also have a cheap locking Stack On gun cabinet. It's a sheet metal cabinet. It's also not a safe.

[FAS1]

seems kind of neat, definitely high tech.

And of course that's what's needed to provide security for your handgun... well at least if you were born after 1990.