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  • BlackReef
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 3616

    Coming back to Cali with my pistol

    Long time member here, been stationed at Fort Campbell, coming back to Cali for a few months. I've been way out of the loop with firearm laws and was changed and what not. I have a legally registered Glock with me and a Kentucky CCW, which I know I know California does not recognize the CCW.

    As far as I remember, I can carry the weapon in my vehicle as long as it's locked up and there is no ammo in it. I also know that magazine capacity is not an issue anymore in California? Is the approved California handgun roster still a thing? It's a Gen 5 Glock 19. Also as far as flying in I'm assuming I just need to check the weapon and obviously not carry on. Anything else I should know? Thank you
  • #2
    ARDude
    Veteran Member
    • May 2006
    • 2723

    Over 10 round mags are still a no go for importing into California.
    Real-life Girls

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    • #3
      edgerly779
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Aug 2009
      • 19871

      Read regs and flow chart. 10 rounds in mag, no threaded barrels.

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      • #4
        BlackReef
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 3616

        If you were just traveling through the state, would It still be considered importing magazines? You are not bringing them in for permanent residence or for sale...

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        • #5
          RickD427
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2007
          • 9249

          Originally posted by BlackReef
          If you were just traveling through the state, would It still be considered importing magazines? You are not bringing them in for permanent residence or for sale...
          Yes. It makes no difference if the importation is temporary or permanent.

          There used to be an exception where you could lawfully import large-capacity magazines that were previously removed from the state, but that exception is now gone.

          Make sure that you are considered as a "Returning Resident" under California law. If so, you cannot bring in any weapons that were purchased outside of the state after 2015. You have to ship them to a California FFL who then transfers them to you in state. Handguns have to be on the roster. Refer to PC 27585 for the requirement and to PC 27590 for the felony penalty if the weapon is a handgun.
          If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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          • #6
            BlackReef
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 3616

            Thank you, for what it's worth I'm a Tennessee resident now. So technically I would be a visitor passing through. Will be headed to California just for a few months for work.

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            • #7
              Dan_Eastvale
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2013
              • 8848

              Out of stater can’t buy ammo. Have to bring your own.

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              • #8
                RickD427
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jan 2007
                • 9249

                Originally posted by BlackReef
                Thank you, for what it's worth I'm a Tennessee resident now. So technically I would be a visitor passing through. Will be headed to California just for a few months for work.
                That's good. But being a Tennessee resident doesn't prevent California from considering you as a returning resident. California has some rather long tentacles when it comes to residency. Make sure that you have a good understanding of PC 17000.

                Life is a lot better when you're "free and clear" from California.
                If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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                • #9
                  fnlrun
                  Member
                  • Aug 2018
                  • 486

                  Jesus just bring it. You won't be able to buy ammo though, so if your shooting with buddies just have them pick up a few extra boxes. I have multiple off roster firearms AND they are on my Ca CCW permit

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                  • #10
                    Quiet
                    retired Goon
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 30239

                    Originally posted by BlackReef
                    As far as I remember, I can carry the weapon in my vehicle as long as it's locked up and there is no ammo in it. I also know that magazine capacity is not an issue anymore in California? Is the approved California handgun roster still a thing? It's a Gen 5 Glock 19. Also as far as flying in I'm assuming I just need to check the weapon and obviously not carry on. Anything else I should know? Thank you
                    It is illegal (felony) for a non-resident of CA bring and possess large capacity magazines in CA. [PC 32310(a)]
                    ^Exemption to this for qualified LEOs.

                    If your Glock 19Gen5 has a threaded barrel, then it is considered an assault weapon under CA laws [PC 30515(a)(4)(A)] and illegal (felony) for you to bring to CA [PC 30600(a)] and illegal (felony) for you to possess in CA [PC 30605(a)].

                    If you maintained your CA residency while stationed in another State, then it is illegal for you to bring any firearm you obtained while out-of-state to CA, unless they are shipped to a CA FFL dealer and transferred to you. [PC 27585(a)] Failure to utilize a CA FFL dealer to legally import firearms to CA equates to a misdemeanor per long gun [PC 27590(a)] and a felony per handgun [PC 27590(c)(7)]. The CA DROS system does not allow non-exempt off-Roster handguns to be imported into CA by a CA resident.
                    ^Which means, if you maintained your CA residency, it is illegal (felony) for you to bring your Glock 19Gen5 to CA.

                    Transporting in a vehicle...
                    Handgun needs to be unloaded and in a locked container or in the vehicle's locked trunk. [PC 25610(a)]

                    As long as the ammunition is not contained in the firearm [PC 16840(b)], ammunition can be in the same locked container that the unloaded handgun is in.

                    If the unloaded handgun is left in the vehicle, then it needs to be in a locked container that is hidden from plain sight or in the vehicle's locked trunk. [PC 25140(a)]

                    Vehicle's locked trunk = the locked luggage or storage compartment of the vehicle that is not accessible from the vehicle's passenger compartment. [PC 25140(d)(1)(D)]

                    Transporting outside of a vehicle...
                    Handguns needs to be unloaded and in a locked container and the course of travel must be directly to and from authorized locations. [PC 25505]
                    Last edited by Quiet; 03-09-2022, 1:08 PM.
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                    • #11
                      byteheed
                      Member
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 229

                      Originally posted by Quiet
                      It is illegal (felony) for a non-resident of CA bring and possess large capacity magazines in CA. [PC 32310(a)]
                      ^Exemption to this for qualified LEOs.

                      If your Glock 19Gen5 has a threaded barrel, then it is considered an assault weapon under CA laws [PC 30515(a)(4)(A)] and illegal (felony) for you to bring to CA [PC 30600(a)] and illegal (felony) for you to possess in CA [PC 30605(a)].

                      If you maintained your CA residency while stationed in another State, then it is illegal for you to bring any firearm you obtained while out-of-state to CA, unless they are shipped to a CA FFL dealer and transferred to you. [PC 27585(a)] Failure to utilize a CA FFL dealer to legally import firearms to CA equates to a misdemeanor per long gun [PC 27590(a)] and a felony per handgun [PC 27590(c)(7)]. The CA DROS system does not allow non-exempt off-Roster handguns to be imported into CA by a CA resident.
                      ^Which means, if you maintained your CA residency, it is illegal (felony) for you to bring your Glock 19Gen5 to CA.

                      Transporting in a vehicle...
                      Handgun needs to be unloaded and in a locked container or in the vehicle's locked trunk. [PC 25610(a)]

                      As long as the ammunition is not contained in the firearm [PC 16840(b)], ammunition can be in the same locked container that the unloaded handgun is in.

                      If the unloaded handgun is left in the vehicle, then it needs to be in a locked container that is hidden from plain sight or in the vehicle's locked trunk. [PC 25140(a)]

                      Vehicle's locked trunk = the locked luggage or storage compartment of the vehicle that is not accessible from the vehicle's passenger compartment. [PC 25140(d)(1)(D)]

                      Transporting outside of a vehicle...
                      Handguns needs to be unloaded and in a locked container and the course of travel must be directly to and from authorized locations. [PC 25505]
                      In other words, welcome back to paradise!

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                      • #12
                        Peahi2
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2018
                        • 817

                        Bring a few Gen5 G19s to sell. You will make some good money. Hell bring a staccato or 2 and you will double your money.

                        Also, a question for the Calguns armchair lawyers from Google U, can he bring his standard capacity with him? They were legally obtained, just like his off roster gun. Why would he have to forfeit legally obtained property? For those of us who legally bought standard capacity mags during freedom week, they ain't being handed in to Gavin. We are in America, but within the peoples republic of sanctuary cities.

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                        • #13
                          RickD427
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 9249

                          Originally posted by Peahi2
                          can he bring his standard capacity with him?
                          He can bring in any "Standard Capacity" magazine that holds less than ten rounds. He would be committing a felony if the "Standard Capacity" magazine holds more than 10 rounds. Please refer to Penal Code section 32310. Additionally please note that the importation clause of section 32310 is unaffected by the Duncan v Bonta legal action.

                          Originally posted by Peahi2
                          They were legally obtained, just like his off roster gun.
                          That's groovy, but it don't change nothing.

                          Originally posted by Peahi2
                          Why would he have to forfeit legally obtained property?
                          He doesn't have to "Forfeit" anything. He can store them out of state, or he can sell them out of state.

                          Originally posted by Peahi2
                          For those of us who legally bought standard capacity mags during freedom week, they ain't being handed in to Gavin.
                          That's because of the federal court injunction issued in Duncan v Bonta. Once that case is finally resolved we'll either see PC 32310 go away, or the mandates contained in PC 32310 will go into effect.
                          If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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                          • #14
                            rigid
                            Junior Member
                            • Feb 2022
                            • 8

                            This is also a good point for you. And your handgun must not be above the 10 round mag mark.

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                            • #15
                              M1NM
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 7966

                              Originally posted by Quiet
                              Transporting in a vehicle...
                              Handgun needs to be unloaded and in a locked container or in the vehicle's locked trunk. [PC 25610(a)]
                              That's while in CA. While traveling he needs to check which states honor his CCW and carry/transport within those limits.

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