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  • MissiontoMars
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 1544

    Family transfers

    Looking for a quick reference on family PPT transfers. I think I'm aware of

    Parent to Child
    Spouse to spouse

    How about a transfer to my mother-in-law? Looked up a few sources and didn't see that relationship covered?

    Is it just FSC for her, and the $19 DOJ fee?

    Different for handgun vs. long gun?

    Their family is clean, record-wise as Stepfather-in-law has to maintain security clearance.

    If it's too much of a grey area, I might just take her shopping/renting to find her own Consignment/new piece, though I think she'd rather avoid the DROS process.
  • #2
    sfe187
    Banned
    • Sep 2016
    • 1770

    I believe your wife to her mother ok not you. You to your in laws, regular ppt $47.19.

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    • #3
      MissiontoMars
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 1544

      Originally posted by sfe187
      I believe your wife to her mother ok not you. You to your in laws, regular ppt $47.19.

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      • #4
        Quiet
        retired Goon
        • Mar 2007
        • 30241

        For intra-familial transfers, in-law and step-relations do not qualify as immediate family members.
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        "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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        • #5
          Tango_Down
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2017
          • 1175

          Up or down good. Can't go across and no steps.
          Father / Mother
          Grandfather / Grandmother
          Son / Daughter
          Grandson / Granddaughter

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          • #6
            MissiontoMars
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 1544

            Got it. Thanks all!

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            • #7
              fiddletown
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 4928

              Originally posted by Quiet
              For intra-familial transfers, in-law and step-relations do not qualify as immediate family members.
              Nor do siblings.
              "It is long been a principle of ours that one is no more armed because he has possession of a firearm than he is a musician because he owns a piano. There is no point in having a gun if you are not capable of using it skillfully." -- Jeff Cooper

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              • #8
                edgerly779
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Aug 2009
                • 19871

                in laws brothers and sisters, uncles not famkily. Only up and down. mother,father, sons, daughters grand[arents are familhy. Only a thousand threads on this. Op looked nothing up on this.

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                • #9
                  rghouse
                  Member
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 275

                  What is the time frame or response from DOJ on IFTs? Do they send documents when approved? Sent in my docs months ago with no reply. Experienced advice appreciated.

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                  • #10
                    verdigris
                    Member
                    • Feb 2019
                    • 303

                    Originally posted by rghouse
                    What is the time frame or response from DOJ on IFTs? Do they send documents when approved? Sent in my docs months ago with no reply. Experienced advice appreciated.
                    You need a FFL familier with Intrafamily Transfer. Get them a gift letter on who is transferring to and from and items. Your family member ships items to FFL. Fed ex is no longer shipping guns from private individuals so you'll need to use UPS and they only ship guns overnight so there is a added cost for that. Then your FFL just does your 4473 and 10 day wait period. You don't contact the DOJ on Intrafamily.

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                    • #11
                      SoldierLife7
                      Joe Exotic For President
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 2420

                      Originally posted by edgerly779
                      in laws brothers and sisters, uncles not famkily. Only up and down. mother,father, sons, daughters grand[arents are familhy. Only a thousand threads on this. Op looked nothing up on this.
                      Other people already answered the question in this thread...

                      Why did you comment on it? The answer was already there.

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                      • #12
                        Quiet
                        retired Goon
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 30241

                        Originally posted by rghouse
                        What is the time frame or response from DOJ on IFTs? Do they send documents when approved? Sent in my docs months ago with no reply. Experienced advice appreciated.
                        CA DOJ BOF will send an acknowledgement letter after they are done processing the paperwork. This can be 4-64 weeks after they cash in the payment for the paperwork.

                        Due to "COVID related staffing issues", response time seems to be around 6-14 months.
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                        "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                        • #13
                          rghouse
                          Member
                          • Jan 2018
                          • 275

                          Originally posted by verdigris
                          You need a FFL familier with Intrafamily Transfer. Get them a gift letter on who is transferring to and from and items. Your family member ships items to FFL. Fed ex is no longer shipping guns from private individuals so you'll need to use UPS and they only ship guns overnight so there is a added cost for that. Then your FFL just does your 4473 and 10 day wait period. You don't contact the DOJ on Intrafamily.
                          I asked my ffl, he told me to print the form and send it in. I found the form, followed the instructions, wrote the check, and sent it in.
                          Last edited by rghouse; 03-31-2022, 9:58 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Quiet
                            retired Goon
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 30241

                            Originally posted by rghouse
                            I asked my ffl, he told me to print the form and send it in. I found the form, followed the instructions, and sent it in. The firearm was not shipped to me, it was hand delivered by dad.
                            If your parent is a CA resident, then this transfer was exempt from needing to be done through a CA FFL dealer and reporting the transfer to CA DOJ BOF via Report of Intra-Familial Firearm Transaction was legally required within 30 days of taking possession of the firearm.

                            If your parent is a non-resident of CA, then this transfer was not exempt from needing to be done through a CA FFL dealer and reporting the transfer to CA DOJ BOF via Report of Intra-Familial Firearm Transaction simply documents that multiple Federal felonies occurred, making it easier for the Feds to prosecute this illegal transfer.

                            Since 1968, Federal laws have prohibited the transfer of firearms between residents of different States unless a FFL is utilized. Failure to utilize a FFL equates to a Federal felony for everyone involved with the transfer.
                            There is no intra-familial or gift exemption to the Federal laws. There is a bequeath exemption, but it requires the transferor to be deceased and the transferee to be named in the transferor's will as the recipient of the firearm(s).
                            Last edited by Quiet; 03-31-2022, 9:57 AM.
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                            "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                            • #15
                              otteray
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 3246

                              OP apparently is unaware of the CGF wiki walkthru on the subject of familial transfers:
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                              Single fin mentality

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