CA DROS Delay

[559BearDown]

Same issue here...Breco Firearms in Clovis won't release to me on undetermined despite having an active ccw. 😒

[lonewolf50]

So you're saying that you did screw yourself. 60+ days and $95 to DROS the same gun, that the A-hole could have legally released after the first 30 days and same first DROS.

Please OUT THE BASTARD, so other CalGunners can avoid that kind of luck. Because that A-hole doesn't deserve the patronage of any law abiding Ca citizens.

Then seriously consider hopping on the 210 and make a quick trip to Upland.




Or any other integrity conscious FFL.

[slixx1320]

Please OUT THE BASTARD, so other CalGunners can avoid that kind of luck. Because that A-hole doesn't deserve the patronage of any law abiding Ca citizens.

This ^^

[pacrat]

So you're saying that you did screw yourself. 60+ days and $95 to DROS the same gun, that the A-hole could have legally released after the first 30 days and same first DROS.

Please OUT THE BASTARD, so other CalGunners can avoid that kind of luck. Because that A-hole doesn't deserve the patronage of any law abiding Ca citizens.

Then seriously consider hopping on the 210 and make a quick trip to Upland.

2ND AMENDMENT ZONE
750 N MOUNTAIN AVENUE #C
UPLAND, CA 91786
6265934819

Or any other integrity conscious FFL.

[lonewolf50]

Yes, that bad, several new threads a week get started on the subject. Or it seems so anyway. Due to frequency.

And it is exacerbated if the "buyer" SCREWED THEMSELVES, by doing business with unscrupulous A-hole FFLs who deny customers RKBA. By refusing to release on undetermined.

Did you screw yourself?

I’ve been dealing with this FFL for years, but they did piss me off, by making me do a second DROS on the same firearm, and came back delayed again, but the FFL has agreed to release the firearm if it’s undetermined again. A 10 day waiting period , just became 60 ****ing days. I’ve been livid all day . I can not believe this ****. I might have to consult with an attorney soon. Three DROS delayed in a month, it’s definitely an attack on our second amendment .

[pacrat]

Lol,, that bad huh!!

Yes, that bad, several new threads a week get started on the subject. Or it seems so anyway. Due to frequency.

And it is exacerbated if the "buyer" SCREWED THEMSELVES, by doing business with unscrupulous A-hole FFLs who deny customers RKBA. By refusing to release on undetermined.

Did you screw yourself?

[The Gleam]

Lol,, that bad huh!!

Yeah... also, alert CRPA to the problem. Has even more impact if you're a CRPA member.

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[lonewolf50]

Just search 'All Threads' for the words "undetermined" or "delay".

Hope your hard-drive doesn't melt in the process.

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Lol,, that bad huh!!

[The Gleam]

Just search 'All Threads' for the words "undetermined" or "delay".

Hope your hard-drive doesn't melt in the process.

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[lonewolf50]

DROS delayed

Has anyone else experienced delayed and undetermined DROS, when you’ve already had multiple firearm purchases? I’ve been purchasing firearms since 2008, and I work federal under the DOD; I had two DROS submitted at the same time, one for a pawnshop return, and the other a new gun purchase, they both came back delayed today on the 10th day. I have never experienced this. The worst part , after waiting 6 months for a CCW interview with the Los Angeles County Sheriffs dept, I finally had an interview set for tomorrow and I had to postponed it, because my new firearm purchase and pawn return which I was intending to list on My CCW, are delayed. Any thoughts on my current situation?

[pacrat]

Isn't there something called a Grand Jury that could take up a civil rights violation? I have no idea so it's just a question. Maybe they wouldn't have any standing or jurisdiction etc.

If yes, then perhaps granting immunity to involved persons to testify, after all, isn't that what happens when the shoe is on the other foot and evidence otherwise not obtainable is suddenly forthcoming? One of those legal beagle things.

Just curious.

https://www.pooleshaffery.com/news/2...en%20the%20two.

Both a grand jury indictment and a preliminary hearing are initiated by the District Attorney, who presents the prosecutor's evidence to determine whether there is probable cause to bring criminal charges against the subject. The procedure for obtaining such determines varies dramatically between the two.

Good Luck finding a Ca DA who will convene a GJ in order to indict the Ca AG, who is the head of DOJ.

[iMigraine]

Picked up my pistol from Rifle Gear on Saturday, May 28th, my 10th day. No problems.

[SharedShots]

People need to start reporting each and every one of these nonsensical delays and 'undetermineds' whereby they know there is nothing that would make them a prohibited person, directly to the CRPA.

Maybe once the CRPA starts realizing the frequency of it, they'll do something of action about it.

This is currently one of the biggest issues against gun owners and the number of these unexplained delays/undetermined labels are increasing each week, and it's going unchecked.

Though people may be getting their money back from dealers who don't release on undetermined and think no big feal of it, no loss - your civil rights were violated regardless, without explanation.

You also have diminished or reduced the number of new handguns or semi-auto rifles in a year's time that you may purvhade, under the 1-per-30 day application to purchase infringement, which just may be the CA DOJ's ultimate goal in the first place - to reduce gun sales by disregard, dismissal, disdain, and delay/undetermined.

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Isn't there something called a Grand Jury that could take up a civil rights violation? I have no idea so it's just a question. Maybe they wouldn't have any standing or jurisdiction etc.

If yes, then perhaps granting immunity to involved persons to testify, after all, isn't that what happens when the shoe is on the other foot and evidence otherwise not obtainable is suddenly forthcoming? One of those legal beagle things.

Just curious.

[The Gleam]

People need to start reporting each and every one of these nonsensical delays and 'undetermineds' whereby they know there is nothing that would make them a prohibited person, directly to the CRPA.

Maybe once the CRPA starts realizing the frequency of it, they'll do something of action about it.

This is currently one of the biggest issues against gun owners and the number of these unexplained delays/undetermined labels are increasing each week, and it's going unchecked.

Though people may be getting their money back from dealers who don't release on undetermined and think no big deal of it, no loss - your civil rights were violated regardless, without explanation.

You also have diminished or reduced the number of new handguns or semi-auto rifles in a year's time that you may purchase, under the 1-per-30 day application to purchase infringement, which just may be the CA DOJ's ultimate goal in the first place - to reduce gun sales by disregard, dismissal, disdain, and delay/undetermined.

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[HOGDOG1955]

went in friday and was informed they had gotten a undetermined letter for me from doj. so they refunded purchase price and tax. i have yet to recieve anything myself from doj. just hope now next dros goes thru normal. at least this was just a gen 2 glock 17 that i was getting at what i felt was a real good price.