COE renewal deadline missed.

[SimpleCountryActuary]

I missed the COE renewal deadline last year because the DOJ did not send a renewal form and I was too busy to notice. The CFARS website wants me to apply for a new COE which would include a new Live Scan

This is silly. My waistline might have changed but not my fingerprints. I have emailed them to make an exception.

Any ideas?

Besides swearing. Tried that.

Best!

[1911su16b870]

Been there. Had to re-live scan as if I am doing a whole new application. In my case I had submitted within the grace period and CA DOJ held the application until after the grace period lapsed and then CFARS told me that I had to re-live scan.

[SkyHawk]

They will never send you a reminder. They will show a reminder if you log in to CFARS. But really you need to set your own reminder. Most smart phones have a reminders app built in. Set a reminder to recur annually, 90 days before your COE expiration and again 60 and 45 days just to make sure you don't ignore or miss the first reminder.

[Helmut]

You emailed them asking for an exception because you were too busy? Wish I was on the receiving end of that email to add it to the wall of shame. Lol

[SimpleCountryActuary]

You emailed them asking for an exception because you were too busy? Wish I was on the receiving end of that email to add it to the wall of shame. Lol

[SimpleCountryActuary]

Been there. Had to re-live scan as if I am doing a whole new application. In my case I had submitted within the grace period and CA DOJ held the application until after the grace period lapsed and then CFARS told me that I had to re-live scan.

Thanks! I appreciate the response.

[SimpleCountryActuary]

They will never send you a reminder. They will show a reminder if you log in to CFARS. But really you need to set your own reminder. Most smart phones have a reminders app built it. Set a reminder to recur annually, 90 days before your COE expiration and again 60 and 45 days just to make sure you don't ignore or miss the first reminder.

Thanks! Now I just have to get my daughter to show me how. 😉

[ar15barrels]

No. Because they didn’t send a renewal notice even by e-mail.

E-mail notices cost nothing.

They don't send COE renewal notices.
To ANYONE.
Make your own annual reminder notification in your phone.
It costs you nothing to remind yourself.

[Helmut]

[Spyder]

I renewed mine on time, more than a month before expiration. It expired last week and DOJ hasn't done their part yet, other than take my money.

[Quiet]

I missed the COE renewal deadline last year because the DOJ did not send a renewal form and I was too busy to notice. The CFARS website wants me to apply for a new COE which would include a new Live Scan

This is silly. My waistline might have changed but not my fingerprints. I have emailed them to make an exception.

They never send a COE renewal notice and there are no exceptions for the live scan.

Also...

Per FBI...
Live scanned fingerprints sent for non-criminal investigations must be deleted from the live scan system within 24 hours of receiving the results of the fingerprint search.
^This is the new post-2020 FBI requirement.

Per CA DOJ...
Live scanned fingerprints sent for non-criminal investigations are automatically deleted from their system, via the software that manages their system, 60 days from when they are submitted.
^This met the old pre-2020 FBI requirement.

COE renewal does not require a fingerprint check, unless the renewal is submitted 90+ days after the COE expires. [11 CCR 4037(e)]

[Rcjackrabbit]

How many days in advance do you submit your renewal?

[ar15barrels]

COE renewal does not require a fingerprint check, unless the renewal is submitted 90+ days after the COE expires. [11 CCR 4037(e)]

I'm guessing he is more than 90 days out and that's why he does not have the standard renewal option in his CFARS.

[Quiet]

How many days in advance do you submit your renewal?

90 days.

[SimpleCountryActuary]

They used to send notices.