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936,000 X $37.19 = $34,809,840 - TIME TO AUDIT THE DROS FUNDS

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  • The Gleam
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2011
    • 11290

    936,000 X $37.19 = $34,809,840 - TIME TO AUDIT THE DROS FUNDS

    California Sees Sharp Spike in Gun Ownership.

    ( And what about the sharp spike in DROS fees earned by the state with that? )

    https://www.sacbee.com/news/californ...249981454.html


    About 1,170,000 new guns were registered in California in 2020, and as many as 369,000 people went through the state’s firearms background check process for the first time, according to newly released state data filed in federal court. The numbers are the latest evidence that Californians went on a gun-buying spree last year.
    So let's be conservative and say 1/5th of those were done on one DROS. That's fair - likely about 1 out of 5 I may do have more than one on it. That comes down to 936,000 separate DROS transactions.

    Every DROS transaction has $37.19 tied to it that goes to the state.

    Now take 936,000 X $37.19 = $34,809,840.

    That does NOT include the sales tax ALSO earned on most of those guns, barring PPTs that likely only make up 1/10th of those transactions.

    Nearly $35-MILLION earned for 2020 alone, just on DROS Fees.

    I think it's time that we call for an Audit of the DROS funds again.



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    Originally posted by Librarian
    What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

    If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?
  • #2
    tabascoz28
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 3364

    The other day I heard my lgs explaining that they are charging an extra $25 fee for ppt transfers, cause they will do it when others won't, especially for odd stuff like off roster hand guns. See what happens if they get audited...

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    • #3
      ohsmily
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2005
      • 8930

      Originally posted by tabascoz28
      The other day I heard my lgs explaining that they are charging an extra $25 fee for ppt transfers, cause they will do it when others won't, especially for odd stuff like off roster hand guns. See what happens if they get audited...
      Illegal. They should be reported.
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      • #4
        12pewpew
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2019
        • 1283

        I've had 2 ppts in the last 3 years charge the $37.19 plus $25. One was the Gun Range on Watt in Sacramento. The other was some small podunk shop that was willing to do the transfer in the beginning of the lockdowns.

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        • #5
          Scratch705
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2009
          • 12520

          Originally posted by ohsmily
          Illegal. They should be reported.
          Don't think it is illegal as long as the store itemized it as not part of dros.

          Cause turners charges $5 for a doc fee to every gun sale/ppt for years now
          Originally posted by leelaw
          Because -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?
          Originally posted by SoCalSig1911
          Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.
          Originally posted by PrepperGunShop
          Truthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).

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          • #6
            Garbcollector
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 1571

            I'm sure california is funneling the funds for other things

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            • #7
              M76
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2014
              • 5954

              Originally posted by Garbcollector
              I'm sure california is funneling the funds for other things
              into the pockets of seditious sjw scumbags
              sigpic
              Originally posted by dunndeal
              Stop digging.
              Originally posted by BrassCase
              I only buy fireworks from Three Finger Willie over at One Eyed Jack's Fireworks.
              iTrader

              https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1884858

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              • #8
                Burbur
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 1258

                Originally posted by The Gleam
                I think it's time that we call for an Audit of the DROS funds again.



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                Last time we did this, they raised the fee from $25 to $37.19.

                Do not dare question your Masters!

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                • #9
                  Spyder
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 16755

                  Nah, they need to increase the DROS because it costs more than 37 bucks for their software system to receive data each time and screw it up. If a person has to actually look at it, it triples the cost!

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                  • #10
                    golfish
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 10044

                    It's past stupid ...fishing license, Hunting license and let's not forget auto registration...
                    It takes a lot of balls to play golf the way I do.
                    Happiness is a warm gun.

                    MLC, First 3

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                    • #11
                      The Gleam
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 11290

                      Originally posted by golfish
                      It's past stupid ...fishing license, Hunting license and let's not forget auto registration...
                      You forgot dog-licenses.

                      Coming soon:

                      - Surfing license of which funds will go to serve ocean-front clean-up and stop climate change;

                      - Mow-your-own-lawn license of which funds will go to serve neighborhood clean-up and stop climate change;

                      - Recycling license of which funds will go to serve trash-can clean-up and stop climate change;

                      - Hard scape license of which funds will go to prevent hard-scape and stop climate change;

                      - Bean dinner license of which funds will go to prevent flatulence and top climate change:

                      - Virtual Real-estate licenses to buy, sell, or own land to preserve Metaverse neighborhood clean-up and prevent climate-change in the Metaverse.

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                      Originally posted by Librarian
                      What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                      If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                      • #12
                        rsrocket1
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 2754

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                        • #13
                          The Gleam
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 11290

                          Originally posted by rsrocket1
                          $35M? The state p1$$€$ that off in about two minutes. Why would anyone care?
                          Because it's not being spent on the items they said it would be spent on, that's for sure; we see signs of that every week, from DROS system failures, unexplained delays without any resource for resolution, errors, and under-staffing, lack of response of complete dismissive attitude in streamlining gun purchases, to failures of enforcing the factors that were intended to stop repeat criminals from getting guns in the first place and allowing them to proliferate in using firearms (repeatedly) to commit crimes - and instead they are attacking law-abiding citizens over nonsensical laws dependent on aesthetics as arbitrary phobias about features.

                          I think once people would see exactly what that $35-Million is being spent on, they would care. They would care a lot. Hint - it's certainly not being spent on improving the DROS system or the DOJ's service/maintenance of it.

                          Add to this the cost the DROS fees for ammo purchases, what manufacturers pay to keep guns on the Roster, plus certain related taxes, plus State FFL license/COE fees, plus permits, plus what gun owners pay to register their firearms as RAW, and so on - it's just a huge black hole of fees going only to the State DOJ - it all resembles an untouchable RICO machine.


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                          Originally posted by Librarian
                          What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                          If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                          • #14
                            harbormaster
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jun 2017
                            • 4916

                            Cost of the audit will raise it to $50 maybe $60
                            1. Compared to what?
                            2. At what cost?
                            3. What hard evidence do you have?

                            T.S. debunking the Left in 3 simple questions.

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                            • #15
                              dozer wright
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 2764

                              Moved to the general fund and poof its gone.

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