Stripped Lower under 21, legal or not?

[HerrNuguri]

Asking for a friend who wants to build his first ar15 and he wants to buy a stripped lower. He has a hunting license so he can buy long guns. Not sure if he can buy frame/receiver tho, is stripped lower DROSd as rifle or receiver?

[HerrNuguri]

Must be 21. The lower is serialized, and therefore considered a firearm

Even with hunting license that exempts ppl from the age law? D:

[bohoki]

a lower is not a rifle or shotgun in the eyes of the federal firearms dealer so the exemption for 18 year old does not apply

[Quiet]

Stripped Lower under 21, legal or not?

Asking for a friend who wants to build his first ar15 and he wants to buy a stripped lower. He has a hunting license so he can buy long guns. Not sure if he can buy frame/receiver tho, is stripped lower DROSd as rifle or receiver?

Since 1968...

Federal laws have prohibited a FFL from transferring a firearm to a person under the age of 21.

Federal laws grant an exemption to this for a non-prohibited person age 18-20 with the firearm being a Title 1 Rifle or a Title 1 Shotgun.

A receiver is a Title 1 Other, so it can not be legally transferred by a FFL to a person under the age of 21.


Under Federal laws: [18 USC 922(b)(1)]
Title 1 Rifle = minimum age 18.
Title 1 Shotgun = minimum age 18.
Title 1 Other = minimum age 21.
Title 1 Handgun = minimum age 21.
Title 2 firearm = minimum age 21.

Even with hunting license that exempts ppl from the age law? D:

Under CA laws...

A CA FFL dealer is prohibited from transferring a firearm to a person under the age of 21.

An exemption is granted for a non-prohibited person age 18-20 with a valid CA hunting license and the firearm being a shotgun or a rimfire rifle or a single-shot centerfire rifle or a manually operated centerfire rifle.
^This exemption does not apply to handguns, semi-auto centerfire rifles, and other firearms that are not handguns, rifles, or shotguns.

Currently, a virgin receiver should be CA DROS'd as a "long gun, other". Which means it does not qualify for any exemptions that would allow a CA FFL dealer to legally transfer it to a person under the age of 21.

[HerrNuguri]

Since 1968...

Federal laws have prohibited a FFL from transferring a firearm to a person under the age of 21.

Federal laws grant an exemption to this for a non-prohibited person age 18-20 with the firearm being a Title 1 Rifle or a Title 1 Shotgun.

A receiver is a Title 1 Other, so it can not be legally transferred by a FFL to a person under the age of 21.


Under Federal laws: [18 USC 922(b)(1)]
Title 1 Rifle = minimum age 18.
Title 1 Shotgun = minimum age 18.
Title 1 Other = minimum age 21.
Title 1 Handgun = minimum age 21.
Title 2 firearm = minimum age 21.



Under CA laws...

A CA FFL dealer is prohibited from transferring a firearm to a person under the age of 21.

An exemption is granted for a non-prohibited person age 18-20 with a valid CA hunting license and the firearm being a shotgun or a rimfire rifle or a single-shot centerfire rifle or a manually operated centerfire rifle.
^This exemption does not apply to handguns, semi-auto centerfire rifles, and other firearms that are not handguns, rifles, or shotguns.

Currently, a virgin receiver should be CA DROS'd as a "long gun, other". Which means it does not qualify for any exemptions that would allow a CA FFL dealer to legally transfer it to a person under the age of 21.

Thank you very much for the info sir

[HerrNuguri]

Since 1968...

Federal laws have prohibited a FFL from transferring a firearm to a person under the age of 21.

Federal laws grant an exemption to this for a non-prohibited person age 18-20 with the firearm being a Title 1 Rifle or a Title 1 Shotgun.

A receiver is a Title 1 Other, so it can not be legally transferred by a FFL to a person under the age of 21.


Under Federal laws: [18 USC 922(b)(1)]
Title 1 Rifle = minimum age 18.
Title 1 Shotgun = minimum age 18.
Title 1 Other = minimum age 21.
Title 1 Handgun = minimum age 21.
Title 2 firearm = minimum age 21.



Under CA laws...

A CA FFL dealer is prohibited from transferring a firearm to a person under the age of 21.

An exemption is granted for a non-prohibited person age 18-20 with a valid CA hunting license and the firearm being a shotgun or a rimfire rifle or a single-shot centerfire rifle or a manually operated centerfire rifle.
^This exemption does not apply to handguns, semi-auto centerfire rifles, and other firearms that are not handguns, rifles, or shotguns.

Currently, a virgin receiver should be CA DROS'd as a "long gun, other". Which means it does not qualify for any exemptions that would allow a CA FFL dealer to legally transfer it to a person under the age of 21.

How about using a 80% lower and register it? No FFL involved in this process

[Quickdraw559]

He’s going to have to convince his pops to gift him one if he really wants it.

[bohoki]

Since 1968...

Federal laws have prohibited a FFL from transferring a firearm to a person under the age of 21.

Federal laws grant an exemption to this for a non-prohibited person age 18-20 with the firearm being a Title 1 Rifle or a Title 1 Shotgun.

A receiver is a Title 1 Other, so it can not be legally transferred by a FFL to a person under the age of 21.


Under Federal laws: [18 USC 922(b)(1)]
Title 1 Rifle = minimum age 18.
Title 1 Shotgun = minimum age 18.
Title 1 Other = minimum age 21.
Title 1 Handgun = minimum age 21.
Title 2 firearm = minimum age 21.



Under CA laws...

A CA FFL dealer is prohibited from transferring a firearm to a person under the age of 21.

An exemption is granted for a non-prohibited person age 18-20 with a valid CA hunting license and the firearm being a shotgun or a rimfire rifle or a single-shot centerfire rifle or a manually operated centerfire rifle.
^This exemption does not apply to handguns, semi-auto centerfire rifles, and other firearms that are not handguns, rifles, or shotguns.

Currently, a virgin receiver should be CA DROS'd as a "long gun, other". Which means it does not qualify for any exemptions that would allow a CA FFL dealer to legally transfer it to a person under the age of 21.

you seem to know laws i do not seek legal advice or assume you a lawyer but say someone buys a stripped lower in california then heads over to nevada and assembles it into a pistol has any law been broken?

[Quiet]

How about using a 80% lower and register it? No FFL involved in this process

Under CA self-made firearm laws...

If the firearm is a handgun, then the person making it must be 21 or older.
If the firearm is a rifle or shotgun, then the person making it must be 18 or older.

When the person has the intent to make the self-made firearm, they must submit a USNA to CA DOJ BOF.

Within 10 days of receiving CA DOJ BOF approval, that person must engrave the firearm with the CA DOJ approved marking info and submit proof to CA DOJ BOF.

Within 30 days of receiving CA DOJ BOF approval, that person must complete the firearm's build into a CA legal firearm and submit it's final configuration (with pictures) to CA DOJ BOF.

Modifying the self-made firearm past the 30 days window, so that it no longer matches the submitted pictures of it's final configuration, is considered manufacturing a new illegal self-made firearm.

[HerrNuguri]

Under CA self-made firearm laws...

If the firearm is a handgun, then the person making it must be 21 or older.
If the firearm is a rifle or shotgun, then the person making it must be 18 or older.

When the person has the intent to make the self-made firearm, they must submit a USNA to CA DOJ BOF.

Within 10 days of receiving CA DOJ BOF approval, that person must engrave the firearm with the CA DOJ approved marking info and submit proof to CA DOJ BOF.

Within 30 days of receiving CA DOJ BOF approval, that person must complete the firearm's build into a CA legal firearm and submit it's final configuration (with pictures) to CA DOJ BOF.

Modifying the self-made firearm past the 30 days window, so that it no longer matches the submitted pictures of it's final configuration, is considered manufacturing a new illegal self-made firearm.