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  • hermosabeach
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 19736

    Inspecting / autopsy of failed AR 15 bolt

    We all know that money is not free.
    Someone spend extra $$$ on a TiN bolt carrier and bolt that are way out of spec


    Something to think about when buying unknown parts.





    Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

    Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

    Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

    Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
    (thanks to Jeff Cooper)
  • #2
    nate76239
    Senior Member
    • May 2013
    • 1635

    That bolt was garbage, probably a gun show special.

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    • #3
      hermosabeach
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2009
      • 19736

      We go through lean times and panics.

      Some understand AK bolts are not interchangeable

      I wonder how many buy a cheap / slightly out of spec bolt?

      I don't have the tools to measure a bolt.
      Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

      Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

      Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

      Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
      (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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      • #4
        1911RONIN
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        • Mar 2011
        • 1989

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        • #5
          FeuerFrei
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2008
          • 7455

          Originally posted by hermosabeach
          We go through lean times and panics.

          Some understand AK bolts are not interchangeable

          I wonder how many buy a cheap / slightly out of spec bolt?

          I don't have the tools to measure a bolt.
          Just to add a data point for you. I swapped WASR and Romanian G (parts kit gun) bolts after checking head space on them. 100% function. Went bang! Not boom. No noticeable differences.

          My caveat is to check head space first and then play ball!

          I'm not saying all brands will swap. Just the 2 type I noted. Test, test and test some more.

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          • #6
            bohoki
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 20826

            that was informative ive thrown so many together that just work ive been lucky i guess

            i wonder if they got a bunch of undersized reject bolts and hoped the TiN coating would add dimension

            i would use that carrier with a normal mpi tested bolt in my gun i love his extractor spring test i too have a feel its like i know a bolt is probably bad if i can move the extractor a certain way

            its kind of a good rule if you got a cheap spring its a cheap bolt if "they" ever wise up and use a slightly stronger spring half my expertise will go out the window

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            • #7
              BigPimping
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2010
              • 21473

              Cheap is cheap for a reason.
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              • #8
                The Tiger
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 1989

                Wow, cool vid.

                I guess I never thought about how important the tolerances are for each of those parts.
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                • #9
                  Rgarbarino
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 1112

                  I'm willing to bet the guy bought it just because it's gold.

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                  • #10
                    hermosabeach
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 19736

                    I subscribed to the channel

                    Interesting to see what / how he tests things

                    On both builds and failure analysis
                    Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                    Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                    Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                    Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                    (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                    • #11
                      MarikinaMan
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 4864

                      Great video. Lotsa new information for me.

                      Now I feel bad about scraping carbon off my bolt tail Gonna have to leave em dirty and only use chemical cleaning.

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                      • #12
                        DirtyRussianAmmo
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 1366

                        Great video. Educational and informative. Thanks for posting!

                        For fellow retro fans, here's another one of his vids... In this one he does an autopsy/test firing of a 60-year-old Colt 601 parts kit. Colt's quality shines through.

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                        • #13
                          BucDan
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 4063

                          Now where does the cheap Palmetto State Armory bolt and carriers stand?

                          I hope ok

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                          • #14
                            bohoki
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 20826

                            Originally posted by BucDan
                            Now where does the cheap Palmetto State Armory bolt and carriers stand?

                            I hope ok
                            well i don't see him testing stuff that works

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                            • #15
                              MarikinaMan
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 4864

                              This is a Fail Zero BCG. Autopsy comes up with a result.



                              Thanks for posting this. This guy goes deeper into an AR than most. I appreciate the share.
                              Last edited by MarikinaMan; 12-07-2021, 8:05 AM.

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