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  • CartridgeCalls
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 1409

    Front stock/front trigger screw stuck

    Just bought a weatherby vanguard sub moa . 30-06 and trying to install a new trigger but the front screw won't budge


    Any ideas how to loosen it?

    I have 3 in 1 oil penetrating it now for three days.
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  • #2
    CartridgeCalls
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 1409

    Thinking of using an impact screwdriver?

    Already broke two flat head bits and vent two other tips just by loosening by hand.
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    • #3
      fguffey
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 1408

      Just bought a Weatherby vanguard sub moa . 30-06 and trying to install a new trigger but the front screw won't budge
      You will have to consider the previous owner used some kind of gorilla grip on the screws; I would consider using heat.

      In the old days the Mauser used the cheapest screws, it did not take any effort to shear the screws off.

      F. Guffey

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      • #4
        desertrider
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 1464

        A few things you might have success with.....

        A less viscous penetrant like Kroil or Liquid Wrench.

        Tap on the scew with a punch/hammer. Vibrations will help penetrant into gaps and might break free.

        As you stated, use an impact driver.

        If you bought the gun used, maybe the previous owner red loctited the screw in place?

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        • #5
          CartridgeCalls
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2016
          • 1409

          I just asked the previous owner but they claim it's never been taken a part so the factory may have over tightened it.
          Cartridge Calls, Predator, Duck and Big game calls made from real brass cartridges. 100% Disabled Veteran Owned and operated Small Business.
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          • #6
            baih777
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jul 2011
            • 5680

            Heat it with a soldering iron.
            Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
            I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
            I'm Back.

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            • #7
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57159

              Originally posted by CartridgeCalls
              Just bought a weatherby vanguard sub moa . 30-06 and trying to install a new trigger but the front screw won't budge

              Any ideas how to loosen it?
              Your thread title is "Front stock/front trigger screw stuck".
              So which is it?
              The stock screw is usually a flat head while the trigger screw is usually an allen.
              A torch will free the trigger screw but would damage the stock.

              On the stock screw, use a screwdriver bit that fits correctly and add a 1/4" wrench on the bit between the screw and the bit holder handle.
              That will give you LOTS more leverage than just a screwdriver handle.

              If that won't do it, then next option is to setup the barrelled action in the milling machine and drill out the HEAD of the screw without touching the bottom metal.
              Then the stock can be removed and heat used to free the remaining stub of the screw.
              Randall Rausch

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              • #8
                CartridgeCalls
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 1409

                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                Your thread title is "Front stock/front trigger screw stuck".
                So which is it?
                The stock screw is usually a flat head while the trigger screw is usually an allen.
                A torch will free the trigger screw but would damage the stock.

                On the stock screw, use a screwdriver bit that fits correctly and add a 1/4" wrench on the bit between the screw and the bit holder handle.
                That will give you LOTS more leverage than just a screwdriver handle.

                If that won't do it, then next option is to setup the barrelled action in the milling machine and drill out the HEAD of the screw without touching the bottom metal.
                Then the stock can be removed and heat used to free the remaining stub of the screw.
                Sorry it is the front trigger guard screw. The screw head is now completely marred and out of shape so using a flat screwdriver is almost impossible now.

                Do you do mill work?
                Cartridge Calls, Predator, Duck and Big game calls made from real brass cartridges. 100% Disabled Veteran Owned and operated Small Business.
                www.cartridgecalls.com
                Get them in close, Get the job done!

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                • #9
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57159

                  Originally posted by CartridgeCalls
                  The screw head is now completely marred and out of shape so using a flat screwdriver is almost impossible now.

                  Do you do mill work?
                  Yes.
                  And that's about the only way to get it out now.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                  • #10
                    CartridgeCalls
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 1409

                    Going the Dremel a slot into the head and try to use the impact screwdriver now.
                    Cartridge Calls, Predator, Duck and Big game calls made from real brass cartridges. 100% Disabled Veteran Owned and operated Small Business.
                    www.cartridgecalls.com
                    Get them in close, Get the job done!

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                    • #11
                      smoothy8500
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 3846

                      Oh yeah, that's gonna look sweet when you're done.....

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                      • #12
                        CartridgeCalls
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2016
                        • 1409

                        Originally posted by smoothy8500
                        Oh yeah, that's gonna look sweet when you're done.....
                        I bought new torx screws to go back in when I install the new timney trigger and bell and Carlson bedded stock.
                        Cartridge Calls, Predator, Duck and Big game calls made from real brass cartridges. 100% Disabled Veteran Owned and operated Small Business.
                        www.cartridgecalls.com
                        Get them in close, Get the job done!

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57159

                          Originally posted by smoothy8500
                          Oh yeah, that's gonna look sweet when you're done.....
                          Especially if he hits the bottom metal that's around the screw head with the dremel cutoff wheel while forming the slot.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                          • #14
                            smoothy8500
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 3846

                            Almost impossible to avoid.....

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                            • #15
                              CartridgeCalls
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 1409

                              Originally posted by ar15barrels
                              Especially if he hits the bottom metal that's around the screw head with the dremel cutoff wheel while forming the slot.
                              I have a new trigger plate with detachable magazine kit to install so I don't mind destroying the marked Submoa plate.

                              Sent you an email Randall.
                              Cartridge Calls, Predator, Duck and Big game calls made from real brass cartridges. 100% Disabled Veteran Owned and operated Small Business.
                              www.cartridgecalls.com
                              Get them in close, Get the job done!

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