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  • armbar8118
    Member
    • Sep 2018
    • 246

    Type 07 FFL license

    I went to the website and it says $150 for 3 yrs so I've been wondering if anyone here went through the process and if it was easy to acquire specially here in Cali?

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  • #2
    TKM
    Onward through the fog!
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2002
    • 10657

    Have you considered the FFL's forum?

    It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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    • #3
      SkyHawk
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Sep 2012
      • 23525

      $150 lol... in Cali?

      By the time you are done, if you can even get one - you will probably have spent a lot more than that, probably many thousands.
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      • #4
        Quiet
        retired Goon
        • Mar 2007
        • 30242

        Penal Code 29050
        (a) The Department of Justice shall accept applications for, and shall grant licenses permitting, the manufacture of firearms within this state.
        (b) No license shall be granted by the department unless and until the applicant presents proof that the applicant has all of the following:
        (1) A valid license to manufacture firearms issued pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code.
        (2) Any regulatory or business license required by local government.
        (3) A valid seller’s permit or resale certificate issued by the State Board of Equalization, if applicable.
        (4) A certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to Section 26710.
        (c) A license granted by the department shall be valid for no more than one year from the date of issuance and shall be in the form prescribed by the Attorney General.
        (d) The department shall inform applicants who are denied licenses of the reasons for the denial in writing.

        Penal Code 29055
        (a) The department shall adopt regulations to administer this chapter and Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 29010).
        (b) The department shall recover the full costs of administering the program by collecting fees from license applicants. Recoverable costs shall include, but not be limited to, the costs of inspections and maintaining a centralized list of licensed firearm manufacturers.
        (c) The fee for licensed manufacturers who produce fewer than 500 firearms in a calendar year within this state shall not exceed two hundred fifty dollars ($250) per year or the actual costs of inspections and maintaining a centralized list of firearm manufacturers and any other duties of the department required pursuant to this chapter and Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 29010), whichever is less.
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        • #5
          Mute
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2005
          • 8567

          Unless you're planning to go into this business, it's probably not worth the cost. And as explained already, it will wind up costing more than just the ATF fees by the time you're done and ready to use the license.
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          • #6
            P&L
            Junior Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 37

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            • #7
              SkyHawk
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Sep 2012
              • 23525

              It's one thing to get this for a real business with a real commercial business location. It is another thing entirely to get this at your house - which I suspect is the OPs intent based on his mention of "$150".

              If you think you are getting this for your house, your first issue may be zoning and it could be an insurmountable hurdle.

              In any case, you also have security and secure storage costs and some cities may require extraordinary security no matter if you are a house or commercial building.

              How doable this is and what the cost may be, in large part comes down to exactly what address you plan to use for the operation.

              If the only concern for getting an 07FFL was $150 every 3 years, 75% of Calgunners would have a 07 FFL.
              Last edited by SkyHawk; 09-18-2021, 10:09 AM.
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              • #8
                Quiet
                retired Goon
                • Mar 2007
                • 30242

                Originally posted by SkyHawk
                In any case, you also have security and secure storage costs and some cities may require extraordinary security no matter if you are a house or commercial building.
                Minimum security requirements, under CA laws, for a firearm manufacturer...

                Penal Code 29135
                (a) A licensee shall allow the department to inspect the building designated in the license to ensure compliance with the requirements of this chapter.
                (b) A licensee shall allow any peace officer, authorized law enforcement employee, or Department of Justice employee designated by the Attorney General, upon the presentation of proper identification, to inspect facilities and records during business hours to ensure compliance with the requirements of this chapter.

                Penal Code 29140
                A licensee shall store in a secure facility all firearms manufactured and all barrels for firearms manufactured.

                Penal Code 29141
                Except as otherwise provided in Section 29142, as used in this chapter, “secure facility” means that the facility satisfies all of the following:
                (a) The facility is equipped with a burglar alarm with central monitoring.
                (b) All perimeter entries to areas in which firearms are stored other than doors, including windows and skylights, are secured with steel window guards or an audible, silent, or sonic alarm to detect entry.
                (c) All perimeter doorways are designed in one of the following ways:
                (1) A windowless steel security door equipped with both a deadbolt and a doorknob lock.
                (2) A windowed metal door equipped with both a deadbolt and a doorknob lock. If the window has an opening of five inches or more measured in any direction, the window is covered with steel bars of at least one-half inch diameter or metal grating of at least nine gauge affixed to the exterior or interior of the door.
                (3) A metal grate that is padlocked and affixed to the licensee’s premises independent of the door and doorframe.
                (4) Hinges and hasps attached to doors by welding, riveting, or bolting with nuts on the inside of the door.
                (5) Hinges and hasps installed so that they cannot be removed when the doors are closed and locked.
                (d) Heating, ventilating, air-conditioning, and service openings are secured with steel bars, metal grating, or an alarm system.
                (e) No perimeter metal grates are capable of being entered by any person.
                (f) Steel bars used to satisfy the requirements of this section are not capable of being entered by any person.
                (g) Perimeter walls of rooms in which firearms are stored are constructed of concrete or at least 10-gauge expanded steel wire mesh utilized along with typical wood frame and drywall construction. If firearms are not stored in a vault, the facility shall use an exterior security-type door along with a high security, single-key deadbolt, or other door that is more secure. All firearms shall be stored in a separate room away from any general living area or work area. Any door to the storage facility shall be locked while unattended.
                (h) Perimeter doorways, including the loading dock area, are locked at all times when not attended by paid employees or contracted employees, including security guards.
                (i) Except when a firearm is currently being tested, any ammunition on the premises is removed from all manufactured guns and stored in a separate and locked room, cabinet, or box away from the storage area for the firearms. Ammunition may be stored with a weapon only in a locked safe.

                Penal Code 29142
                (a) For purposes of this chapter, any licensed manufacturer who produces fewer than 500 firearms in a calendar year within this state may maintain a “secure facility” by complying with all of the requirements described in Section 29141, or may design a security plan that is approved by the Department of Justice or the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
                (b) If a security plan is approved by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the approved plan, along with proof of approval, shall be filed with the Department of Justice and the local police department. If there is no police department, the filing shall be with the county sheriff’s office.
                (c) If a security plan is approved by the Department of Justice, the approved plan, along with proof of approval, shall be filed with the local police department. If there is no police department, the filing shall be with the county sheriff’s office.
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