Source for a decent first aid kit for the car and for the range?

[mtenenhaus]

i should probably put together a little first aid kit for the car and for the range
wondering if there was a good quality fairly priced commercially available kit that people preferred. I looked through amazon but it's a little tough sometimes to separate the "wheat from the chaff".

Are most just sourcing their kits from the local pharmacy?

i was thinking it should have:
tourniquet
trauma shears
kerlex
quick clot type product
tape
sharpie
nasal trumpet
bandaids
triple antibiotic ointment
gloves
some sort of mask to ventilate
towel

thanks,
(i did a little search on calguns but the suggestions weren't all that recent)

[T3Pros]

Based on my training with a former Army Special Forces medic (18D) as well as a DEVGRU SEAL who gave an overview of medical supplies, you want to separate your trauma kit from your boo boo kit.

Stuff like antibiotic ointment and band-aids should be in a pouch somewhere, but close or on you and separate should be the life saving equipment like tourniquet, wound packing gauze, chest seals, trauma shears.

The thinking is that in a moment where seconds count, you don't want to be digging through a bag full of medical supplies.

Rescue-essentials.com is where I get most of the stuff I use to build trauma kits and boo boo kits.

[castgold]

I'd add some iodine wipes, tampons for large punctures, gauze rolls, and EPI pen.

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[Kyle1886]

For us it was more practical to "build" our own. Each "location" may need items that another my not as a "triage" need.

Vehicle, range, and home, bug out bag some items common to all, like bandages, butterflies, home and range bag have patches for chest sucking wounds that are not vehicle or bug out bag. What you are most likley to need, you cannot carry everything.

More costly, but better supplied.

(Sanitary pads work well for bleeders too).

Respectfully
Kyle

[Vinnie Boombatz]

I’m an ER trauma nurse and all I carry are trauma shears, tourniquet, quick clot gauze and a pocket mask with a one-way valve. That’s it.

Also, you can have the biggest, most spec’d out kit with a bunch of crap, but if you don’t know how to use any of it it isn’t worth a damn.

[T3Pros]

I'd add some iodine wipes, tampons for large punctures, gauze rolls, and EPI pen.

Tampons aren't recommended to stop massive hemmorage.




A quick look on the Rescue-essentials website, to make an inexpensive IFAK here's a list:

SOFTT-W TQ

compression bandage + wound packing gauze

chest seals

NPA

trauma shears

Total with shipping $67.56

[ldsnet]

Best IFAC is based on your level of training.

I agree with T3pros, your trauma kit should be separated from your ouch kit.
My TQ is on my belt or the outside of my gear so another rescuer can find it quickly!
Rule of thumb in combat, if I quickly locate Your kit, that is what I am going to use to patch up You!

[Ubermcoupe]

NARescue.

I do what Vinnie does; Bleeder kit for trauma, booboo kit separate.

[broadside]

But someone else with you or that comes to aid, may be able to use them. However I agree that knowing how to use them is best.

[theLBC]

i attach this to my range bag. there are lots of options though...

https://medicalgearoutfitters.com/products/fatpack-5x8-large-first-aid-kit-black-tan-or-wolf-gray

[mtenenhaus]

you guys are awesome....i really appreciate the help

[n8vrmind]

QuikClot kit, gloves, in my trunk and range bag

[sigstroker]

There are a lot of kits that have good stuff in them except for a lack of quikclot. So my plan is to just get one of those kits and add quickclot gauze to it.

[Librarian]

Tampons aren't recommended to stop massive hemmorage.




A quick look on the Rescue-essentials website, to make an inexpensive IFAK here's a list:

SOFTT-W TQ

compression bandage + wound packing gauze

chest seals

NPA

trauma shears

Total with shipping $67.56

Here's something I learned about recently - Foley catheter balloon tamponade (FCBT).

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0002961005807500

https://sjtrem.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1757-7241-21-2

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1286913/

Here's a Foley catheter.


Some of you may have 'enjoyed' one in the hospital.

The device is inserted in the wound, following the track; the balloon at the left is filled with water with a syringe through the orange-marked end, and the exterior end is tied off or clamped (since the ordinary use is to collect urine, there's a second lumen (tube) with an opening - blue line in the pic - so that has to be closed).

Should provide direct pressure on an internal blood vessel.

A simple kit includes the catheter, some lube, and the syringe of sterile water - should be under $10 in ones.

But gauze packing almost certainly will work, and is simpler!

[Vinnie Boombatz]

Here's something I learned about recently - Foley catheter balloon tamponade (FCBT).

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0002961005807500

https://sjtrem.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1757-7241-21-2

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1286913/

Here's a Foley catheter.


Some of you may have 'enjoyed' one in the hospital.

The device is inserted in the wound, following the track; the balloon at the left is filled with water with a syringe through the orange-marked end, and the exterior end is tied off or clamped (since the ordinary use is to collect urine, there's a second lumen (tube) with an opening - blue line in the pic - so that has to be closed).

Should provide direct pressure on an internal blood vessel.

A simple kit includes the catheter, some lube, and the syringe of sterile water - should be under $10 in ones.

But gauze packing almost certainly will work, and is simpler!

Cute, but probably won’t be effective. Especially if you have no direct trauma experience you’re fooling yourself to think that you can just simply stick a foley into a wound, inflate the balloon and think it will work.

Many people’s approaches to first aid and trauma kits is the same as someone who thinks that just buying a gun will be enough, but never received any training. You also need the training to know what do to. And if you don’t know what to do, don’t think you’re going to magically rise to the occasion in the moment when $h!t’s going down. Training is more important than having a sexy kit that makes you fee a false sense of security. Tricking out a kit that has every little this and that is like aomeone building a Gucci Glock only to take pics of it to get clicks on Instagram.

Also, you need to understand the difference between having supplies that will actually make a difference in potentially saving someone’s life and a “first aid kit”. Wrapping a superficial would or applying a band-aid might make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside because you feel a sense of accomplishment, but that stuff will not save someone’s life, and will just clutter up your kit.

Instead of spending unnecessary money on an expensive kit it would be better to enroll in some sort of class, maybe even a basic EMT class which is VERY rudimentary/fundamental, but it’s those fundamentals that will be most effective if someone’s life is on the line. I bet most of you don’t even have a basic CPR certification or know how to use an AED. That’s where I’d start.