I just purchased a handgun a week ago. I was just wondering with the new law here in California am I allowed to dros a Lower receiver or do I have to wait 30 days.
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do I need to wait 30 days?
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Did you buy the gun from a private party? Is th slower you want to buy from a private party? Private party transactions are exempt for the one every 30 day rule. New guns from dealers are subject to one every 30 days. If both are brand new guns from dealers,You can buy it within 30 days but you cannot DROS it until 31 days after the last DROS."Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin
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Sorry for the delay guys. I posted this question and kind of forgot about it. Thank you for all the replies though. This is the answer that I needed. I just don't want to go and dros a lower receiver and get flagged in the system over some petty crap.Comment
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Since a bare lower does not have a chamber or action, it is exempt. Some FFLs however take a contrary view especially if the lower is marked with a centerfire caliber.
And I have no idea how the various selections on the DROS impact what DOJ does. You would think that "receiver/frame only" would exempt it, but DOJ is known to make things up as they go.
It would be interesting to hear from some FFLs who have done multi-lower DROS lately.
A hunting license has no bearing on 1 in 30. A hunting license is not an exemption. You may be thinking of the under age-21 exemption for certain long guns.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=27535.
1/30 only applies to centerfire semi auto rifles, and handguns.
Exemptions are:
(1) Any law enforcement agency.
(2) Any agency duly authorized to perform law enforcement duties.
(3) Any state or local correctional facility.
(4) Any private security company licensed to do business in California.
(5) Any person who is properly identified as a full-time paid peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, and who is authorized to, and does carry a firearm during the course and scope of employment as a peace officer.
(6) Any motion picture, television, or video production company or entertainment or theatrical company whose production by its nature involves the use of a firearm.
(7) Any person who may, pursuant to Article 2 (commencing with Section 27600), Article 3 (commencing with Section 27650), or Article 4 (commencing with Section 27700), claim an exemption from the waiting period set forth in Section 27540.
(8) Any transaction conducted through a licensed firearms dealer pursuant to Chapter 5 (commencing with Section 28050). AKA PPT
(9) Any person who is licensed as a collector pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto, and has a current certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to Article 1 (commencing with Section 26700) of Chapter 2.
(10) The exchange of a handgun or semiautomatic centerfire rifle where the dealer purchased that firearm from the person seeking the exchange within the 30-day period immediately preceding the date of exchange or replacement.
(11) The replacement of a handgun or semiautomatic centerfire rifle when the person’s firearm was lost or stolen, and the person reported that firearm lost or stolen pursuant to Section 25250 prior to the completion of the application to purchase the replacement.
(12) The return of any handgun or semiautomatic centerfire rifle to its owner.
(13) A community college that is certified by the Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training to present the law enforcement academy basic course or other commission-certified law enforcement training.Last edited by SkyHawk; 08-17-2021, 10:38 AM.Comment
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Randall Rausch
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Most work performed while-you-wait.Comment
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He is correct. I drosd a complete lower on 7-31 picked up on 8-10 and I also drosd a complete AR on 8-6 and picked it up today. Both were new purchases done no issues.Comment
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...along WITH handguns that are not PPT. i.e., it's an or, not an and.
(Stripped lowers are not semi-auto rifles, but I know there are going to be FUD FFLs out there that will mismanage that and argue they are and subject to the mystical purposes of the 1-per-30 day cockblock.)
Sucks balls, but as they are now applying it to common firearms of semi-auto cenyerfire long-guns, including C&R, such as even an M1 Garand (which is insulting to our 'Greatest Generation' on several levels) I think it's ripe for fighting how random, silly, and superficial any "1-per-30" purchase limits actually are, ESPECIALLY in a state that now requires ALL modern/C&R firearm purchases to document make, model, and serial number to the buyer.
So as they know exactly what you bought and when, any argument they previously married to the "1-per-30" fiasco in order to claim it was to stop high volume straw-man purchases, is a straw-man argument itself: it has no appreciable context or application other than to facilitate a tool to ban or reduce volume of guns one may own by acquisition over a period of time. Entirely arbitrary.
Because they are now applying it to semi-auto rifles, where courts have often seen common rifles as "more" protected by the 2nd Amendment than handguns, and where this is not relegated to the erroneously termed "Assault Weapons" that courts have also deemed not necessarily sharing the same protections as common rifles, I believe even a moderate Federal court like the 9th would toss this along with the 1-per-30 handgun limit in the process.
I think the Anti-2nd Amendment crowd overstepped their gun control wet-dreams and have doomed one of their own fascist tools for 2nd Amendment control.
Of all the Anti-2nd Amendment laws currently on California's books, this is now one of the easist to target for reversal.
If you are law-abiding and pass the background check, what does it matter how many you buy at one time or how many you already own, in acquiring more? You're still that same law-abiding person and such a quantity restriction on purchasing clearly defines "infringement".
Jay Leno has some 300+ cars; it doesn't make him a drunk driver nor indicate he is more apt to run over a bunch of kids waiting to get on a school bus with his 3800 pound weapon than someone else who only owns 1. Whether he buys 4 more at once, 3 more within 30 days, or just 1, what difference does it make?
Whole thing is nonsense.
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Originally posted by LibrarianWhat compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)
If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?Comment
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21 is for semi-auto-centerfire rifles.
They are treating them the same as handguns now.
Minimum age for a stripped lower is also 21 because it's NOT a rifle.
Minimum age for a non-semi-auto-centerfire rifle is 18 if you have a hunting license of one of the other exemptions.Randall Rausch
AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
Most work performed while-you-wait.Comment
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According to RifleSupply in Huntington Beach and RifleGear in Fountain Valley multiple lowers are allowed and they have been DROSing them. They both said they spoke with their attorneys and said they are ok. RifleGear said they actually contacted the DOJ and were told it is fine. They also mentioned a few local Turners were doing multiple stripped lowers as well.
I did 3 stripped aero lowers today.Comment
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