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  • fighthedude
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 8

    Cleaning question.

    Fellas,
    New to the forum so take it easy on me. Got a quick question on cleaning. It seems as if I am never totally able to clean my barrel. I am using standard hoppes, bore bright, rem oil etc. Brands my old man used growing up cleaning shotguns. Been shooting lead last couple months because I have some in hopes of being a better shot this upcoming deer season. Ill probably shoot another hundred rounds of federal 150 and switch it back to copper and resight in come August. Any recommendations. Ill attach a few photos of the products and you will see the patches. The lightly dirty ones are after probably close to 20. Thanks men! Cheers
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    hermosabeach
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 19530

    Been shooting lead last couple months

    If you are shooting lead- you really need something designed to remove lead...

    birtchwood casey lead removal cloth

    it's kind of waxey

    cut a patch out of the sheet

    run it down the barrel
    repeat until clean
    Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

    Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

    Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

    Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
    (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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    • #3
      hermosabeach
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2009
      • 19530

      BIRCHWOOD CASEY Lead Remover&Polishing Cloth 6INx9IN - BC-31002 - Cleaning Products - Buy online hunting and shooting gears, firearm accessories and more at Safari Firearms.


      Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

      Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

      Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

      Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
      (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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      • #4
        flyer898
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 2017

        I feel your pain.
        I do not shoot lead bullets much in rifles. However, I have sent a very great many lead revolver bullets down range at high speed. Sometimes there has been significant lead remaining in the barrel. I have found it useful to fire some full power jacketed bullets to remove the lead fouling.

        Copper fouling from hi velocity rifle bullets is a different problem. I have found chemistry rather than elbow grease to be my friend here.

        I like to use a good copper fouling remover. I like Sweet’s 7.62, but there are others that are just as good.

        I wet a patch with solvent and put it through the bore. I expect it to show copper and powder fouling. Repeat. I like to wet a patch in a loop jag, plug the muzzle with my finger, and run the patch back and forth the full length of the bore and generate some “suds”. Then I let it set a little while and repeat.

        Once the jacket fouling has been removed, I use some GI bore cleaner to remove the ammonia and any remaining powder fouling.

        Then I switch to a clean patch and Froglube cleaner until the patches come out clean. The last step is a wet patch with Froglube, followed by a dry patch.

        Before shooting, I like to put another patch soaked with cleaner to remove the lube, followed by dry patches to remove the cleaner and remaining lube.
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        • #5
          ja308
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2009
          • 12660

          I like JB from Brownells as it seems to work well .
          FWIW Im no expert - just saying !
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          • #6
            pennstater
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 4660

            Ok, looks like a rifle in question. for lead removal, I've used a 50/50 mix of Kroil and Hoppes #9. Let soak for 30 min or so. Couple applications ought to do it. You could also use "Chore-Boy" all copper dish scrubbers[all copper, not plated stuff]. One of these two should work for you. Hope this helps.

            MLC

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            • #7
              ja308
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2009
              • 12660

              Originally posted by pennstater
              Ok, looks like a rifle in question. for lead removal, I've used a 50/50 mix of Kroil and Hoppes #9. Let soak for 30 min or so. Couple applications ought to do it. You could also use "Chore-Boy" all copper dish scrubbers[all copper, not plated stuff]. One of these two should work for you. Hope this helps.

              MLC
              Regretfully the great product Kroil is not available in the not so great state of California.
              It fell victim to a full time legislature run by the democrat party.

              On can only guess why this product is banned ?
              Might have something to do with not greasing enough palms, or possibly they contribute to republicans?

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              • #8
                Pofoo
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 1682

                Many times, even if a patch comes out fairly clean, if you run a bronze brush and solvent down a bore, you will get a lot more gunk out.
                Solvent alone will usually not get the job done. You need a stiff brush (not nylon).

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                • #9
                  Beelzy
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 9224

                  Get some brass pipe screens from a smoke shop and run one down the pipe.
                  "I kill things for a living, don't make yourself one of them"

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                  • #10
                    M1A Rifleman
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 3691

                    Takes up to a week to get barrels clean with constant use of Hoppes by swabbing and letting sit overnight and repeat next day. Sounds like you keep at it. Use copper bore brush to remove heavy fouling and make sure patches are tight in the barrel.
                    The only thing that is worse than an idiot, is someone who argues with one.

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                    • #11
                      subscriber
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 929

                      Originally posted by ja308
                      Regretfully the great product Kroil is not available in the not so great state of California.
                      Try buying it from this amazon link. You might be pleasantly surprised:


                      Perhaps it is you local municipality that does not allow it.

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                      • #12
                        fighthedude
                        Junior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 8

                        Thanks for all info and recommendations. Ill get and try some of these things you all suggested. Cheers men!

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                        • #13
                          God Bless America
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2014
                          • 5163

                          Originally posted by fighthedude
                          Fellas,
                          New to the forum so take it easy on me. Got a quick question on cleaning. It seems as if I am never totally able to clean my barrel. I am using standard hoppes, bore bright, rem oil etc. Brands my old man used growing up cleaning shotguns. Been shooting lead last couple months because I have some in hopes of being a better shot this upcoming deer season. Ill probably shoot another hundred rounds of federal 150 and switch it back to copper and resight in come August. Any recommendations. Ill attach a few photos of the products and you will see the patches. The lightly dirty ones are after probably close to 20. Thanks men! Cheers
                          Lead core bullets, or cast lead bullets?

                          There are no "federal 150" loads for a rifle like your Tikka that do not have copper jackets.

                          You do not have lead in your barrel. You will have powder fouling and "copper" fouling (actually gilding metal, 95% copper, 5% zinc). They can be in layers, so alternate between copper remover and good solvent.

                          Your patches are more than clean enough. More barrels are said to be ruined by overcleaning than shooting.

                          The patches will never come out perfectly white, even in a perfectly clean bore.

                          Find a clean piece of steel, and rub a wetted patch on it, and see the discoloration. It's normal.
                          Last edited by God Bless America; 07-11-2021, 8:13 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Donny1
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 2341

                            The patches will never come out perfectly white, even in a perfectly clean bore.
                            Not a big rifle shooter but I've learned over the decades that this is true.

                            One thing I've found that after I clean and get "almost" 100% clean patches if I soak the bore with just plain oil for a few minutes a whole new batch of gunk will come out.

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                            • #15
                              ohsmily
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 8954

                              Originally posted by fighthedude
                              Fellas,
                              New to the forum so take it easy on me. Got a quick question on cleaning. It seems as if I am never totally able to clean my barrel. I am using standard hoppes, bore bright, rem oil etc. Brands my old man used growing up cleaning shotguns. Been shooting lead last couple months because I have some in hopes of being a better shot this upcoming deer season. Ill probably shoot another hundred rounds of federal 150 and switch it back to copper and resight in come August. Any recommendations. Ill attach a few photos of the products and you will see the patches. The lightly dirty ones are after probably close to 20. Thanks men! Cheers
                              You're really shooting hard cast lead bullets in your rifle? Or just lead core with a copper jacket? If lead core.with a copper jacket, then you have been very misleading and you can disregard almost every post in this thread.

                              If you're shooting copper jacketed lead bullets, stop cleaning your rifle so much or stop completely. You're probably damaging your rifle by cleaning so much (damaging the crown, etc).

                              And how are you mew to the forum? You joined a decade ago.
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