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  • ja308
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2009
    • 12660

    judged by 12 or carried by 6 ?



    "The Austin Police said during a late night press conference last July that Foster was carrying a rifle and may have approached the vehicle prior to the shooting.

    Prior to being fatally shot, Garrett Foster said on camera that the “people who hate us” are “too big of p-ssies to actually do anything about it” when asked why he was carrying a rifle"...
    Foster was the BLM guy who forfeited his life by pointing a rifle at an armed expected victim.

    While defending yourself against an armed thug seems like a no brainer, the consequences of protecting ones life could possibly end all wealth accumulation and a lifetime of legal bills.

    This might be a good time for everyone who might need self defense to consider buying insurance.

    Happy Independence Day Friends and remember the founders will enjoy hearing you read the Declaration of Independence .
    Last edited by ja308; 07-03-2021, 6:17 AM.
  • #2
    Epaphroditus
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 4888

    The only "insurance" we have are elected representatives with a true love of freedom in their hearts and the same for everyone on the planet.

    When We The People elevate to power those who hate freedom We get hell.

    Even hard core secular humanists value free will.

    The Creator driven by LOVE for the creation bestowed free will upon us to choose between good versus evil.
    CA firearms laws timeline BLM land maps

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    • #3
      Unit74
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 2359

      I know basically nothing about this case, but from the read, it appears that the bad guy pointed a rifle at a guy, during a riot, who was not part of the riot and he was CCW. Driver pulls his gun with a rifle in his face and shoots and kills the bad guy with the rifle. An Austin, TX grand jury seems to believe this is murder and that having a rifle pointed at you is not justification for defending your own life.

      Am I digesting that correctly?

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      • #4
        ja308
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2009
        • 12660

        Originally posted by Unit74
        I know basically nothing about this case, but from the read, it appears that the bad guy pointed a rifle at a guy, during a riot, who was not part of the riot and he was CCW. Driver pulls his gun with a rifle in his face and shoots and kills the bad guy with the rifle. An Austin, TX grand jury seems to believe this is murder and that having a rifle pointed at you is not justification for defending your own life.

        Am I digesting that correctly?
        Thats what I got from the story and am reminded that Kyle Rittenhouse who on tape killed an armed man, in a clear case of self defense, is also charged with murder.

        The message being sent by democrat prosecutors, is that one should not be armed, even to protect yourself, family or anyone else.

        As an aside, there does appear to be people exempt, even in Free State Georgia.

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        • #5
          ja308
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2009
          • 12660

          Originally posted by Unit74
          I know basically nothing about this case, but from the read, it appears that the bad guy pointed a rifle at a guy, during a riot, who was not part of the riot and he was CCW. Driver pulls his gun with a rifle in his face and shoots and kills the bad guy with the rifle. An Austin, TX grand jury seems to believe this is murder and that having a rifle pointed at you is not justification for defending your own life.

          Am I digesting that correctly?
          Thats what I got from the story and am reminded that Kyle Rittenhouse who on tape killed an armed man, in a clear case of self defense, is also charged with murder.

          The message being sent by democrat prosecutors, is that one should not be armed, even to protect yourself, family or anyone else.

          As an aside, there does appear to be people exempt, even in Free State Georgia.

          Wallace was reportedly located on a 3-acre property outside of Atlanta that is affiliated with a group called the Not F***ng Around Coalition. The NFAC is a black nationalist paramilitary organization.

          The NFAC, which is led by hip-hop DJ Grand Master Jay, has a goal of forming a new ethnostate that is "owned, operated by Blacks, funded through reparations to descendants of the trans-Atlantic slave trade," according to Vice. A report on the NFAC from The Atlantic states, "Eventually, it intends to establish a racially pure country called the United Black Kemetic Nation ('Kemet,' Jay explained, 'is the original name of Egypt, which means 'land of the Blacks)."
          Last edited by ja308; 07-03-2021, 7:46 AM.

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          • #6
            SharedShots
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2021
            • 2277

            You can do everything right and still have a bad outcome.

            You can wait for the green "walk" signal and still get run over by the bus.

            Its called life, some people want guarantees while others acknowledge risk and understand there is no such thing as perfection, even if you carry a Glock.
            Let Go of the Status Quo!

            Don't worry, it will never pass...How in the hell did that pass?

            Think past your gun, it's the last resort, the first is your brain.

            Defense is a losing proposition when time is on the side of the opponent. In the history of humanity, no defense has ever won against an enemy with time on their side.

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            • #7
              rplaw
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2014
              • 1808

              Originally posted by Unit74
              I know basically nothing about this case, but from the read, it appears that the bad guy pointed a rifle at a guy, during a riot, who was not part of the riot and he was CCW. Driver pulls his gun with a rifle in his face and shoots and kills the bad guy with the rifle. An Austin, TX grand jury seems to believe this is murder and that having a rifle pointed at you is not justification for defending your own life.

              Am I digesting that correctly?
              Yes.

              However, the grand jury is often only given the information and evidence that the DA wants to give them. It doesn't have to include any exculpatory evidence such as "there was a guy with a rifle threatening to murder him at the time he had to defend himself."

              This is because for some reason, some lawyers (and people) believe that a complete legal defense (such as self defense or a statutory defense) isn't part of the statute and is the burden of the defense only to prove. Therefore, they don't have to mention it when charging someone.

              The argument goes something like this:
              • The statute only states the elements of the offense.
              • True, but a complete defense nullifies at least 1 of the elements and whenever there's a complete defense available that's obvious and supported by evidence charging someone under that statute is a waste of time and resources of both the parties and the courts.
              • But the statute only states the elements of the offense!!!!!!!!!! It's not my job to do the defense's work for them!!!!!!!
              • Again, true but doesn't that seem sort of self serving to charge someone knowing that they're going to go free in the end? Since when is that "justice"?
              • But the statute only states the elements of the offense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



              Common sense, isn't.

              The fix is to include a small code section in the beginning of the Penal Code which states something like: "It shall be unlawful for anyone, or any subordinate under their control, to bring charges for any offense under this code against any individual or group of individuals when there is a viable complete defense which is supported by evidence. Such unlawful conduct in bringing charges under this section when there is a complete viable defense shall be a civil injury per se for which the State and the offender are both equally and / or severably liable in whole or part."
              Last edited by rplaw; 07-03-2021, 8:17 AM.
              Some random thoughts:

              Somebody's gotta be the mole so it might as well be me. Seems to be working so far.

              Evil doesn't only come in black.

              Life is like a discount bakery. Usually everything is just what you ordered. But, occasionally you come face to face with an unexpected fruitcake. Surprise!

              My Utubery

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              • #8
                tanks
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2014
                • 4038

                Originally posted by Unit74
                ...An Austin, TX grand jury seems to believe this is murder and that having a rifle pointed at you is not justification for defending your own life....
                Austin is the San Francisco of Texas, they even have the same homeless and lawlessness problems due to their ultra-liberal policies. Not surprising.
                "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
                "A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - Unknown

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                • #9
                  OCEquestrian
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 6898

                  Originally posted by tanks
                  Austin is the San Francisco of Texas, they even have the same homeless and lawlessness problems due to their ultra-liberal policies. Not surprising.
                  ^^^^THIS! Austin has a newly elected woke DA; Garza has been called an “ideologue” and a “Democratic socialist.” Austin is a HUGE college town and the effects of the filth K-12 public school teachers and their marxist unions are the root cause of this election result.

                  "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

                  Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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                  • #10
                    benjamin101677
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 1056

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                    • #11
                      ja308
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 12660

                      Good advice for sure. That said I believe the USCCA will pay the amount of policy to the lawyer of your choice.

                      Some things not covered are police hitting your house by mistake, error or any type of military action, or act of war.

                      All in all it seems like a good policy for an unlikely but possible event.

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                      • #12
                        rplaw
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 1808

                        Price has zero connection to quality. Nor does talent require an expensive education or prestigious law firm employment.

                        The story/movie Erin Brokovich is a good example. So is Johnathan Harr's "A Civil Action", which is a story similar to Brokovich, set in Mass. against WR Grace Co. for illegal dumping.
                        Some random thoughts:

                        Somebody's gotta be the mole so it might as well be me. Seems to be working so far.

                        Evil doesn't only come in black.

                        Life is like a discount bakery. Usually everything is just what you ordered. But, occasionally you come face to face with an unexpected fruitcake. Surprise!

                        My Utubery

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                        • #13
                          Dr. Peter Venkman
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 4899

                          Gotta love the bizarro world liberals want to live in.
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                          "America is not at war. The Marine Corps is at war; America is at the mall."
                          Originally posted by berto
                          You're right. There's no possible way that CGN members marching alongside the Pink Pistols in the SF Pride Parade can do anything to dispel the stereotype that gun owners are conservative bigots clinging to their guns and bibles. Not a single person in the crowd is rational or reachable because the parade's for gay folks and it's in SF.

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                          • #14
                            ja308
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 12660

                            Originally posted by rplaw
                            Price has zero connection to quality. Nor does talent require an expensive education or prestigious law firm employment.

                            The story/movie Erin Brokovich is a good example. So is Johnathan Harr's "A Civil Action", which is a story similar to Brokovich, set in Mass. against WR Grace Co. for illegal dumping.
                            Very true and if I read correctly , the writer presumed one would get a lawyer assigned to him or her from the insurance company.

                            That said a person should make sure the insured gets his lawyer paid for within policy limits.
                            An assigned lawyer could be compared to an assigned MD. i.e. democrat health care.

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                            • #15
                              WWDHD?
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 2683

                              As long as Sorros and Bloomberg and the like are bankrolling the elections of uber-lib DA's and judges- we'll continue to have cases like the one in the OP.
                              NRA & CRPA member
                              semi-docile tax payer
                              amateur survivalist

                              Nolite te bastardes carborundorum!

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