St Louis Couple plead guilty. Lose guns!

[ja308]

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2021/06/17/st-louis-couples-legal-odyssey-comes-to-a-tragic-end-n2591163

I cannot pretend to understand how they plead guilty ?
Maybe the lesson here is to abandon property ?

[ee2]

Misdemeanor fine, no felony, replacement cost of guns less than any other path forward. Quote,"I can immediately buy another AR." Missouri is cash & carry for rifles.

[BigStiCK]

Dont understand why the forfeiture of property (weapons) was required, especially if they retained their 2A rights.

First guess would be the pencil d!ck DA needed something to claim as a trophy?

[ja308]

I suppose the guns can be easily replaced and they should be free to buy more.

The part I can't understand is why they were charged? It would seem giving a pass to rioters is sending a bad message.

[sanjoseskater]

Did you see the size of their mansion!!! I think they won in this whole terrible situation. They were smart and armed, when intruders broke their gate they went outside(I probally would have stayed inside and shot somebody and had my life ruined) For sure there mansion was going to get looted they handled it the best way possible. They are rich and can buy any gun they want tommorow. I’m waiting for Kyle rittenhouse to get off too, that’s going to be a good day.

[beanz2]

And McCloskey is running for Senate.

As a Republican too, after having contributed to Dem politicians in the past
(which apparently were too "shy" to come out and defend him afterward)

[The Gleam]

And McCloskey is running for Senate.

As a Republican too, after having contributed to Dem politicians in the past
(which apparently were too "shy" to come out and defend him afterward)

Probably was part of the plea agreement; plead guilty to something nominal, that would not prevent him from running for office - and giving up the guns they had, but not making him a prohibited person.

[BAJ475]

Now let's see if the Governor pardons them, as he said he would.

[Dan_Eastvale]

What crime?
They broke through their gate and were trespassing.

Brandishing when they come on your property in a threatening manner is not brandishing.

[alpha_romeo_XV]

If they had kept the guns pointed straight down or straight up would they have "commited a crime"? What if handgun was holstered and rifle was on a sling ?

[OlderThanDirt]

What crime?
They broke through their gate and were trespassing.

Brandishing when they come on your property in a threatening manner is not brandishing.

It wasn't their personal gate. Their streets were gated to reduce traffic and increase security in their little enclave of historic homes. The street and sidewalk were still considered public space. They should have stayed on their elevated patio where they would have enjoyed a tactical advantage and were clearly within their exclusive property. Moving down to their front walkway was not a very smart move.

As for the firearms, it was a cheap AR and a cheap nonfunctioning handgun. I would have given them up in a heartbeat so I could move on with my life, but ten times more firepower, and in their case, maybe a couple tactical training courses.

[DaveInOroValley]

It wasn't their personal gate. Their streets were gated to reduce traffic and increase security in their little enclave of historic homes. The street and sidewalk were still considered public space. They should have stayed on their elevated patio where they would have enjoyed a tactical advantage and were clearly within their exclusive property. Moving down to their front walkway was not a very smart move.

As for the firearms, it was a cheap AR and a cheap nonfunctioning handgun. I would have given them up in a heartbeat so I could move on with my life, but ten times more firepower, and in their case, maybe a couple tactical training courses.

That and if they had been discrete and waited for anyone to actually come on their property they likely would have been o.k. legally.

[jpg366]

St Louis Couple plead guilty. Lose guns!

It wasn't their personal gate. Their streets were gated to reduce traffic and increase security in their little enclave of historic homes. The street and sidewalk were still considered public space. They should have stayed on their elevated patio where they would have enjoyed a tactical advantage and were clearly within their exclusive property. Moving down to their front walkway was not a very smart move.

As for the firearms, it was a cheap AR and a cheap nonfunctioning handgun. I would have given them up in a heartbeat so I could move on with my life, but ten times more firepower, and in their case, maybe a couple tactical training courses.

Depends on the state. A gated community, with gated street(s), may have streets that are truly private, owned by a community, administered and maintained by the association. In this case, I think the loud and threatening mob was rightfully put in fear of their own safety, regardless of the trespassing issue. Guilty plea to lesser charge and fine are far cheaper than lawyer fees.


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[ja308]

The idea of charging 2 people who sincerely believed, based on very provable threats is just another Swamp tactic to promote, coverup and excuse violence done by democrats in cities they control .

[2shotjoe]

They're cowards, when they have tons of support they give in.

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