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  • Hayduke
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 71

    Firearms While Off Roading

    Howdy!

    I'm visiting CA in Aguanga CA. A buddy is meeting me and we're going to do some off-road exploring near Anza CA. I spent some time out there years ago and know where I want to head.

    While googling for a place to target shoot "shooting near Anza" all that came up was a series of murders the past year or 2. Seven were murdered a mile from where I am and another right about where we planned on going....! Marijuana wars!

    I'm not 100% comfortable taking this adventure without at least a locked and loaded 1911 in the 4x4 console but fear even off road this illegal in CA.

    Please advise.

    Thanks!

    H
  • #2
    Regular guy
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 691

    Maybe plan a trip to someplace....less Murdery?

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    • #3
      9Cal_OC
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2019
      • 6694

      Originally posted by Regular guy
      Maybe plan a trip to someplace....less Murdery?
      This.

      Does your buddy have a CCW? Riverside SD issues freely if your buddy is from that area.
      Freedom isn't free...

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      • #4
        OCEquestrian
        Calguns Addict
        • Jun 2017
        • 6899

        Originally posted by Hayduke
        Howdy!

        I'm visiting CA in Aguanga CA. A buddy is meeting me and we're going to do some off-road exploring near Anza CA. I spent some time out there years ago and know where I want to head.

        While googling for a place to target shoot "shooting near Anza" all that came up was a series of murders the past year or 2. Seven were murdered a mile from where I am and another right about where we planned on going....! Marijuana wars!

        I'm not 100% comfortable taking this adventure without at least a locked and loaded 1911 in the 4x4 console but fear even off road this illegal in CA.

        Please advise.

        Thanks!

        H
        Without CCW a loaded handgun in the car is illegal anywhere in the state not on private property. Possession a loaded rifle in your vehicle is also illegal statewide even with a CCW, again unless on private property. If you pass into Anza Borrego State Park; LOADED FIREARMS AND HUNTING are not allowed in units of the State Parks System. Possession of loaded firearms or air rifles is prohibited. Exceptions are for hunting in recreation areas that have been designated by the State Park and Recreation Commission.
        "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

        Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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        • #5
          Hayduke
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 71

          Originally posted by OCEquestrian
          Without CCW a loaded handgun in the car is illegal anywhere in the state not on private property. Possession a loaded rifle in your vehicle is also illegal statewide even with a CCW, again unless on private property. If you pass into Anza Borrego State Park; LOADED FIREARMS AND HUNTING are not allowed in units of the State Parks System. Possession of loaded firearms or air rifles is prohibited. Exceptions are for hunting in recreation areas that have been designated by the State Park and Recreation Commission.
          What a bummer CA refuses reciprocity on CCW.

          Heck if I were a criminal I'd be out along these roads for some free 4x4s and what ever other goodies come along.

          Man I've wheeled some of wildest places in S. AZ and Texas and felt safe as we had at least an AR and several .45s and 9mms. Yep! Seen some weird stuff. I've seen "packs" of "men" at a distance in the hills east of Tubac AZ with some sort of black guns and bundles....I'd still go out that way all the time...armed.

          Go! H.R.38 - Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act!!!

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          • #6
            Quiet
            retired Goon
            • Mar 2007
            • 30242

            It is not legal to have a loaded firearm in/on a vehicle in CA.

            Exemptions to this for a person with a valid CA LTC permit and the loaded handgun is listed on that permit.
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            "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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            • #7
              beanz2
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2008
              • 12032

              What if he’s going fishing at the end of the trail and has a valid fishing license?

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              The wife will be pissed, but Jesus always forgives.

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              • #8
                edgerly779
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Aug 2009
                • 19871

                While he is fishing he can open carry loaded. To and from fishing unloaded in locked case.

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                • #9
                  sigstroker
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 19769

                  Originally posted by Hayduke
                  What a bummer CA refuses reciprocity on CCW.

                  Heck if I were a criminal I'd be out along these roads for some free 4x4s and what ever other goodies come along.

                  Man I've wheeled some of wildest places in S. AZ and Texas and felt safe as we had at least an AR and several .45s and 9mms. Yep! Seen some weird stuff. I've seen "packs" of "men" at a distance in the hills east of Tubac AZ with some sort of black guns and bundles....I'd still go out that way all the time...armed.

                  Go! H.R.38 - Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act!!!
                  Tubac, probably a cartel thruway.

                  Won't shooting at fish scare the rest of them?

                  A guy could always carry empty chamber, drop the mag if you see cops, rack it if you see crims.

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                  • #10
                    IVC
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 17621

                    Originally posted by sigstroker
                    Won't shooting at fish scare the rest of them?
                    There is a hunting and fishing exemption for carrying a loaded firearm, but likely wouldn't apply here, not only because they would be in a no-hunting, no-fishing area, but also because it wouldn't pass the smell test.
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                    • #11
                      Unit74
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 2359

                      Originally posted by Hayduke
                      Howdy!

                      I'm visiting CA in Aguanga CA. A buddy is meeting me and we're going to do some off-road exploring near Anza CA. I spent some time out there years ago and know where I want to head.

                      While googling for a place to target shoot "shooting near Anza" all that came up was a series of murders the past year or 2. Seven were murdered a mile from where I am and another right about where we planned on going....! Marijuana wars!

                      I'm not 100% comfortable taking this adventure without at least a locked and loaded 1911 in the 4x4 console but fear even off road this illegal in CA.

                      Please advise.

                      Thanks!

                      H
                      Somehow I just don't see what the 1911 has to do with it unless you wanted to let us know you had a 1911. Is that like a status symbol or....? I'd believe most would want something more reliable, less pretty and holds twice as many rounds if heading into the bush.

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                      • #12
                        beanz2
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 12032

                        Originally posted by sigstroker

                        Won't shooting at fish scare the rest of them?
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                        The wife will be pissed, but Jesus always forgives.

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                        • #13
                          Quiet
                          retired Goon
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 30242

                          Originally posted by IVC
                          There is a hunting and fishing exemption for carrying a loaded firearm, but likely wouldn't apply here, not only because they would be in a no-hunting, no-fishing area, but also because it wouldn't pass the smell test.
                          FISHING

                          If you have a valid CA fishing license...
                          ... it is legal to conceal carry an unloaded handgun while traveling to and from your fishing site.
                          ... it is legal to conceal carry an unloaded handgun while fishing in an area that prohibits the discharge of firearms.
                          ... it is legal to conceal carry a loaded handgun while fishing in an area that does not prohibit the discharge of firearms.

                          It is legal to open carry a loaded firearm or an unloaded firearm in an area where it is legal to discharge firearms.
                          It is legal to open carry an unloaded antique firearm.

                          Therefore...

                          This would be CA legal method of carrying, as a person with a valid CA fishing license and fishing in a place where it is legal to discharge firearms:
                          1. Exit residence and foot travel to vehicle = unloaded in locked container.
                          2. While in vehicle = unloaded in locked container.
                          3. Exit vehicle and foot travel to fishing site = unloaded conceal carry.
                          4. At fishing site, while fishing = loaded conceal carry.
                          5. Foot travel from fishing site to vehicle = unloaded conceal carry.
                          6. While in vehicle = unloaded in locked container.
                          7. Exit vehicle and foot travel to residence = unloaded in locked container.

                          This would be CA legal method of carrying, as a person with a valid CA fishing license and fishing in a place where it is illegal to discharge firearms:
                          1. Exit residence and foot travel to vehicle = unloaded in locked container.
                          2. While in vehicle = unloaded in locked container.
                          3. Exit vehicle and foot travel to fishing site = unloaded conceal carry.
                          4. At fishing site, while fishing = unloaded conceal carry.
                          5. Foot travel from fishing site to vehicle = unloaded conceal carry.
                          6. While in vehicle = unloaded in locked container.
                          7. Exit vehicle and foot travel to residence = unloaded in locked container.


                          HUNTING

                          If you have a valid CA hunting license...
                          ... it is legal to conceal carry an unloaded handgun or open carry an unloaded handgun while traveling to and from your hunting site.
                          ... it is legal to conceal carry a loaded handgun or open carry a loaded handgun while hunting in an area that does not prohibit the discharge of firearms.

                          It is legal to open carry a loaded firearm or an unloaded firearm in an area where it is legal to discharge firearms.
                          It is legal to open carry an unloaded antique firearm.

                          Therefore...

                          This would be CA legal method of carrying, as a person with a valid CA hunting license and hunting in a place where it is legal to discharge firearms:
                          1. Exit residence and foot travel to vehicle = unloaded in locked container.
                          2. While in vehicle = unloaded in locked container.
                          3. Exit vehicle and foot travel to hunting site = unloaded conceal carry or unloaded open carry.
                          4. At hunting site, while hunting = loaded conceal carry or loaded open carry.
                          5. Foot travel from hunting site to vehicle = unloaded conceal carry or unloaded open carry.
                          6. While in vehicle = unloaded in locked container.
                          7. Exit vehicle and foot travel to residence = unloaded in locked container.
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                          "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                          • #14
                            Squatch
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2018
                            • 886

                            Better hope a bear or bad guy waits until you get to your fishing spot before attacking.

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                            • #15
                              johnnycharro
                              Member
                              • Jan 2016
                              • 89

                              Hundreds of Asian and Mexican DTO controlled illegal grows in that area, many protected by armed security and/or booby traps. You don't want to run into these folks either... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNo0uVzzSYc

                              Go ride at Ocotillo Wells.

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