Transporting long gun question

[SanDiego619]

If I want to drive to the range with my Swedish Mauser, I think it would be wise to assume I will pass through a GFSZ. As such, to avoid any potential trouble, it would have to be in a locked case right? (Edit: Or secured in a locked gun rack) Is a trigger lock sufficient or does it have to be fully enclosed in some sort of case, with some sort of lock on it, assuming it is not locked in the trunk?

I know the chance is slim, but I'd hate to get pulled over in a GFSZ for some reason and get in trouble for not having a rifle locked up properly.

[OCEquestrian]

I believe that the rifle only needs to be unloaded. The locked container requirements are for handguns and AW's from what I remember. And a quick google search is always your friend...at the top of the search results: https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/travel

SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES

Nonconcealable firearms (shotguns and rifles) are not generally covered within the provisions of California Penal Code section 25400 and therefore are not required to be transported in a locked container. However, as with any firearm, nonconcealable firearms must be unloaded while they are being transported.

[SanDiego619]

I believe that the rifle only needs to be unloaded. The locked container requirements are for handguns and AW's from what I remember.

I think that is true, except in gun free school zones, in which case, I believe, even long guns must be in a locked case. That's what I surmised from all my googles.

Outside of GFSZ, I could technically have a rifle or shotgun laying on the seat as long as it was unloaded.

The link you posted is California state law, but GFSZ restrictions are federal law.

[OCEquestrian]

Found this;

How can non-concealable firearms be legally transported?

Firearms that cannot be concealed have to be unloaded while in transport.

Firearms that cannot be concealed include:
Shotguns,
Rifles,
Carbines, and
Submachine guns.
Usually, non-concealable firearms do not have to be in a locked container. Federal law, however, requires them to be in a locked container or gun rack when in a school zone.3 School zones are anywhere within 1,000 feet of the grounds of a K-12 school.4

This federal law only applies to firearms that “has moved in or that otherwise affects interstate or foreign commerce.”5

For other rifles and shotguns, California’s Gun-Free School Zone Act does not require they be in a locked container while brought through a school zone.

https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/gun-laws/transporting-firearms/

[SanDiego619]

https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense...ting-firearms/

Ahh, thanks very much. I read that last night and missed that little section.

I wonder what qualifies as "has moved in or that otherwise affects interstate or foreign commerce." but I don't think me carrying a Mauser from home to the range counts, and it's not an "assault weapon" that's for sure.

Thanks!!

[joepamjohn]

Good to think ahead and be safe. If you were a criminal thinking of carrying out some terrible acts on the school grounds you would not need to worry since none of the GFSZ laws would apply to you.

[Librarian]

... However, in public, in an incorporated area - for example, moving to your vehicle parked on the street or in your driveway - a long gun must be in a 'locked container' or 'encased'.

PC since 2013, see the wiki http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...EW_law_in_2013

[SanDiego619]

... However, in public, in an incorporated area - for example, moving to your vehicle parked on the street or in your driveway - a long gun must be in a 'locked container' or 'encased'.

PC since 2013, see the wiki http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...EW_law_in_2013

Thanks, that is good information.

From your link: a firearm is "encased" when that firearm is
enclosed in a case that is expressly made for the purpose of
containing a firearm and that is completely zipped, snapped, buckled,
tied, or otherwise fastened with no part of that firearm exposed.

So that means my silicon gun sock is fine, it has a drawstring to totally cover it up and cinch closed.

[Quiet]

I believe that the rifle only needs to be unloaded. The locked container requirements are for handguns and AW's from what I remember. And a quick google search is always your friend...at the top of the search results: https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/travel

SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES

Nonconcealable firearms (shotguns and rifles) are not generally covered within the provisions of California Penal Code section 25400 and therefore are not required to be transported in a locked container. However, as with any firearm, nonconcealable firearms must be unloaded while they are being transported.

Penal Code 25400 = CA conceal carry laws.

CA unloaded open carry laws, for firearms that are not handguns [PC 26400], requires the firearm to be unloaded and in a locked container or encased, while it is being transported outside of a vehicle, in incorporated territory or in a prohibited area of unincorporated territory or while on any publically accessible highway/road/street and the course of travel needs to be directly to & from authorized locations. [PC 26405(c)]
^ Encased = being in a fully enclosed container designed for a firearm. [PC 16505]


Penal Code 26400
(a) A person is guilty of carrying an unloaded firearm that is not a handgun when that person carries upon his or her person an unloaded firearm that is not a handgun outside a vehicle while in any of the following areas:
(1) An incorporated city or city and county.
(2) A public place or a public street in a prohibited area of an unincorporated area of a county.

Penal Code 26400
Section 26400 does not apply to, or affect, the carrying of an unloaded firearm that is not a handgun in any of the following circumstances:
(c) When the firearm is either in a locked container or encased and it is being transported directly between places where a person is not prohibited from possessing that firearm and the course of travel shall include only those deviations between authorized locations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.

Penal Code 16505
For purposes of Chapter 7 (commencing with Section 26400) of Division 5 of Title 4, a firearm is “encased” when that firearm is enclosed in a case that is expressly made for the purpose of containing a firearm and that is completely zipped, snapped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened with no part of that firearm exposed.