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  • robtan
    Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 212

    284win in short action

    Hey everyone,

    I had built out a long range 284 built on a savage long action. However, I’m just not shooting it much. I am going to be throwing a 300wm barrel on that and selling that build off. I’m a little reluctant to let the bullets and brass investment go to waste.

    I am going to be scooping up a Bighorn action for a Jack of all trade rifle. I figure I will have more than one shouldered prefit for it. One of which being a 284win barrel. I wanted to get some opinions on running this cartridge in the short action under the assumption I would mag feed 168gr bullets at 2.9 oal (acis without binder plate) and single feed the 175s and above. Anyone have experience with this?

    My current 175smk load is set to about 3.1 oal if that helps.

    Thank you
    Last edited by robtan; 05-03-2021, 10:06 AM.
  • #2
    Fjold
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Oct 2005
    • 22904

    The short action will not eject a loaded 300 Win mag cartridge.

    If you're going to single load a do it all rifle buy a Ruger No. 1. I don't know what a Jack of all trade rifle is because none of my rifles will do everything that I use rifles for. My 375 H&H comes close except for the colony varmint shooting part of the job.
    Frank

    One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




    Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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    • #3
      robtan
      Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 212

      Originally posted by Fjold
      The short action will not eject a loaded 300 Win mag cartridge.

      If you're going to single load a do it all rifle buy a Ruger No. 1. I don't know what a Jack of all trade rifle is because none of my rifles will do everything that I use rifles for. My 375 H&H comes close except for the colony varmint shooting part of the job.

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      • #4
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57088

        A short action won't feed a factory 300wm cartridge from a magazine nor will a factory short action magazine fit a 300wm cartridge.
        Is your action is a single shot without a magazine well cutout?
        Randall Rausch

        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
        Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
        Most work performed while-you-wait.

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        • #5
          ar15barrels
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 57088

          Originally posted by Fjold
          I don't know what a Jack of all trade rifle is
          A jack of all trades is a master of none.
          A jack of all trades rifle is a rifle that does everything poorly and nothing really well.
          Randall Rausch

          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
          Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
          Most work performed while-you-wait.

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          • #6
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57088

            Originally posted by robtan
            Realized my initial post was unclear.
            Indeed.

            Originally posted by robtan
            For backstory I mentioned that the savage long action
            No you did not:

            Originally posted by robtan
            I had built out a long range 284 built on a short action.
            Randall Rausch

            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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            • #7
              robtan
              Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 212

              Originally posted by ar15barrels
              Indeed.



              No you did not:

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57088

                Originally posted by robtan
                You might want to tone it down on rapid fire posts. You know how to do multiple quotes in a post yet you cluttered a thread just about as bad as I cluttered my initial post.
                Each response post was to a different post.
                The response with a two part reply was your post split in half to address two specific different statements so as to be more clear with the response.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                • #9
                  robtan
                  Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 212

                  Originally posted by ar15barrels
                  Each response post was to a different post.
                  The response with a two part reply was your post split in half to address two specific different statements so as to be more clear with the response.
                  Yet still no answer to the inquiry of post three as I will concede that the original post was a cluster. Mind you, you did enter this thread post a clarification. While in one post you sought further clarification in another you thread crapped a bit.

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                  • #10
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 57088

                    Originally posted by robtan
                    Yet still no answer to the inquiry of post three as I will concede that the original post was a cluster. Mind you, you did enter this thread post a clarification. While in one post you sought further clarification in another you thread crapped a bit.
                    I answer posts in the order they are posted.
                    I don't read through a whole thread before posting.
                    So read my replies in the order they are posted based only on the information available to the point of the post being replied to.

                    Very few people mag feed the 284 with VLD's from short action mags because the bullets have to be seated so deep into the case.
                    The jump to the lands is crazy long with VLD bullets seated so deep that some of the ogive is inside the case neck.
                    Most people shooting 284 with VLD's are either using a single shot action where the OAL does not matter or they are using long action magazines.

                    If you want a 7mm short action cartridge, get a 7-08 barrel for the new reciever.
                    It will fit wonderfully in short action magazines.
                    Randall Rausch

                    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                    Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                    Most work performed while-you-wait.

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