Semi-Auto Haters!

[M1884]

AR's are very capable and versatile rifles, but you have to admit they have some weird ergonomics....

[mif_slim]

Post pictures, or it didn't happen. (one shot does not count as a group)

hehe, here ya go:



Center group was a 3 shot group, the other group to the right there was sight in, the one on the left is my SU-16 and the big holes are from my M44...loose scope, couldnt sight it in.

And heres the rifle that did that:



Another angle:


I have two upper that I use on that lower so thats why the buttstock is not the "L-R" type you usually see on those type of upper.

[PatriotnMore]

At 100 yards with that setup, the accuracy point is moot? The AR's a completely capable of shooting equally well as bolt action rifles, at that distance. The separation of rock star and groupie, starts beyond 500 yards.

hehe, here ya go:



Center group was a 3 shot group, the other group to the right there was sight in, the one on the left is my SU-16 and the big holes are from my M44...loose scope, couldnt sight it in.

And heres the rifle that did that:



Another angle:


I have two upper that I use on that lower so thats why the buttstock is not the "L-R" type you usually see on those type of upper.

[Jicko]

At 100 yards with that setup, the accuracy point is moot? The AR's a completely capable of shooting equally well as bolt action rifles, at that distance. The separation of rock star and groupie, starts beyond 500 yards.

Come'on, that is a matter of "caliber" and "ammo" selection, NOT a matter of bolt vs semi!

Also @ 500yds, it is "the shooter" more than "the gun".

[capitol]

only one simple three round group and your bragging

[professionalcoyotehunter]

I like all guns.

[mif_slim]

only one simple three round group and your bragging

No, I've been shooting in L-R clubs for 7 years, I cant remember how many groups I've shot...but I know its more then 4 barrels (about 4500-5000 rds each, thats 6700 groups of three shot. ). Besides, I wasnt the one braggin, the guy was.

And, yes, I love both.

At 100 yards with that setup, the accuracy point is moot? The AR's a completely capable of shooting equally well as bolt action rifles, at that distance. The separation of rock star and groupie, starts beyond 500 yards.

And at 600-800 yards that same rifle can shoot just as good as a Palma rifle. Because:

Also @ 500yds, it is "the shooter" more than "the gun".

[tankerman]

only one simple three round group and your bragging

And with a target filled with 'other' holes.

[CSACANNONEER]

I love it when I get five flyers to land in the same spot. Come on, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. Can your rifle (and you) do that consistently? If so, you better get into some sort of competitive shooting! You'll have plenty of sponsors begging to pay you to shoot! Hell, I've shot less than 1" 3 shot groups at 1000 yards before. The problem with them is that I was shooting 5 shot groups though. I've even threaded my spotter plug with my follow up shot before. Putting two rounds of .50 in the same .510 hole! But, that doesn't mean squat! Consistency is the key. Seriously, if you can shot like that 95% of the time, it's time for you to go pro.

[j1133s]

So why are there semi-auto haters? I met a guy at the range with a bad attitude towards my Semi-auto collection. He says they will never shoot as good as a bolt action. Period!

Funny thing is, I got less then 1/4" groups with my AR at 100 yards and he got a 1" group with his Rem700 at 50 yards.

1/4" group at 100yd (outdoors I assume) on an AR is simply amazing to me. I'd say you are just a much better shooter than that other guy.

Generally speaking, semi autos arent as accurate as bolt actions is because there are more variables, and in terms of accuracy, you want consistency. Many people even go w/ single shots because they don't even want to load from a magazine.

However, I wouldn't say _any_ bol action is going to be more accurate than _any_semi-auto. The quality also plays a role, but given the same, the bolt action should be equal to or better in terms of accuracy.

[SCMA-1]

3 shot groups don't mean anything. 5 shots groups averaged is a better statistical sampling and 10 shot groups averaged is even more accurate. I LMAO when people pull out one or 2 targets they shot (probably out of a dozen or more and proclaim they are shooting .25MOA or .5MOA. Wrong.

Like CSACANNONEER said, I can't tell you how many times i've put 2 or 3 rounds right into the same hole, but statistically it doesn't mean crap because it doesn't happen with every or nearly every round, groups after group. So much for the 3 round group.

SCMA-1

[dwtt]

I hate those bolt action rifles with their large capacity internal magazines. They're good only for one thing, killing people. And those hunters who use these rifles are real wimps because they need so many shots to hunt a deer. We should all be using single shot break action rifles. What has this world come to!?

[M1A Rifleman]

I hate those bolt action rifles with their large capacity internal magazines. They're good only for one thing, killing people. And those hunters who use these rifles are real wimps because they need so many shots to hunt a deer. We should all be using single shot break action rifles. What has this world come to!?

I agree, civilians don't need an assault weapon.

[THT]

I don't understand why people hate on certain types of guns. If it's safe and goes boom when you pull the trigger, what's to hate? Well, maybe the cost/availability of ammo but...

[kcs1211]

I don't understand why people hate on certain types of guns. If it's safe and goes boom when you pull the trigger, what's to hate? Well, maybe the cost/availability of ammo but...

Nice.

Your all better shooters then me.

But, I bet I have more fun.

While you are all shooting 3 and 5 shot groups, Im blasting through my 10 rounders as fast as I can, just hoping I hit the shoot and c (really, Im not that bad).

Now THATS fun shooting.