Gun Buy Back

[jamespres2001]

As I was waking up this morning I wondered what is so bad about gun buy backs.
Old useless guns get off the street. (Some old guns should never ever be shot again due to danger of explosion.) Maybe some people that don't store their guns safely will get rid of them, preventing some child from hurting themselves.
Maybe someone gets rid of a gun to prevent a relative from hurting someone while committing a crime. Maybe someone gets rid of a gun to prevent a relative from using a gun to commit suicide or kill a relative. Maybe someone knows the gun was used in a crime and doesn't want it to do any more harm.
Of course the management of a gun buy back is never handled well. I think it should be done as follows.
1) Anytime you want call Police, make an appointment, anonymously, safely give the gun to the Police. Get your $50 or what ever from a corporate sponsor.
2) Police will then check if the gun has been used in a crime and use as much info as they can while respecting giver's identity. (I don't know how to do this)
3) Evaluate the condition of gun to make sure it is legal and safe and if so
4) Consign the (legal in Cal) Gun to Gun Exchange, Gun Vault, or any 'In good standing' FFL. Use the money to help solve crimes.
No bragging, No news coverage, just part of every day police work.
Because really, what percentage of guns are recovered?

[Futurecollector]

Thats a good you got there.

[jamespres2001]

I know.

[AJAX22]

Guns belong in the hands of americans.

Unless the police are going to refurbish the guns they take in and give them out to needy families (and NOT use state funds to pay for a single moment of officer time, or spend a taxpayer dime in any way shape or form) They have no buisnes taking guns out of the hands of citizens.

Do NOT participate in a "buy-back"

even the crappiest gun is better than no gun at all... there are hardworking families out there who cannot afford a firearm for defense. If you want to do something for the 2A, you can buy a mans vote cheap if you give him a gun (and show him how to use it/store it/care for it) to defend his family and loved ones.

As far as guns which are damaged beyond salvation..... most anything can be saved... or can be a parts donor for another broken gun... either way it can keep firearms in the hands of Americans.

Even a crummy worn out P.O.S. can be useful.... if it can go bang even once it may help you get a better gun someday when you need it.

Most guns that are 'broken' are salvageable with relatively little time/money invested....

[audihenry]

Guns belong in the hands of americans.

Unless the police are going to refurbish the guns they take in and give them out to needy families (and NOT use state funds to pay for a single moment of officer time, or spend a taxpayer dime in any way shape or form) They have no buisnes taking guns out of the hands of citizens.

Do NOT participate in a "buy-back"

even the crappiest gun is better than no gun at all... there are hardworking families out there who cannot afford a firearm for defense. If you want to do something for the 2A, you can buy a mans vote cheap if you give him a gun (and show him how to use it/store it/care for it) to defend his family and loved ones.

As far as guns which are damaged beyond salvation..... most anything can be saved... or can be a parts donor for another broken gun... either way it can keep firearms in the hands of Americans.

Even a crummy worn out P.O.S. can be useful.... if it can go bang even once it may help you get a better gun someday when you need it.

Most guns that are 'broken' are salvageable with relatively little time/money invested....

Some people aren't as fanatical about firearms as you seem to be. Some people downright don't care, as you seem to.

Whatever happened to being free enough to decide whether to scrap a decades old POS gun or put even more money into it and obsess like a madman?

I'm glad a lot of people are turning in guns because then only the true enthusiasts with knowledge of safety and so on will retain them. And as long as you have one, why do you care if someone else does or doesn't?

Live and let live.

[wildhawker]

I wonder how the newspapers would read if an organization/philanthopist were to establish a handgun buyback/transfer grant program, wherein working-condition handguns ala 'buy back' were transferred from the sellers to a sponsoring FFL, to be held until such time that the grant recipients completed a basic handgun course (also organized as part of the effort), including some classroom time on laws and home defense. The successful completion of the training course would be prerequisite to the transfer of the firearm to the grantee. The program would be targeted towards poverty-level LGBT, minorities and women who reside in high-crime neighborhoods.

In a populated area near a range, group training could be [relatively] inexpensively arranged. The costs to undertake a limited buyback effort would seem to be fairly reasonable for even a small number of underwriters, given an FFL willing to perform the transfers at or under cost (or free, if they see an upside worthy of it).

How might such a program positively influence our relationship with these groups? Thoughts?

Guns belong in the hands of americans.

Unless the police are going to refurbish the guns they take in and give them out to needy families (and NOT use state funds to pay for a single moment of officer time, or spend a taxpayer dime in any way shape or form) They have no buisnes taking guns out of the hands of citizens.

Do NOT participate in a "buy-back"

even the crappiest gun is better than no gun at all... there are hardworking families out there who cannot afford a firearm for defense. If you want to do something for the 2A, you can buy a mans vote cheap if you give him a gun (and show him how to use it/store it/care for it) to defend his family and loved ones.

As far as guns which are damaged beyond salvation..... most anything can be saved... or can be a parts donor for another broken gun... either way it can keep firearms in the hands of Americans.

Even a crummy worn out P.O.S. can be useful.... if it can go bang even once it may help you get a better gun someday when you need it.

Most guns that are 'broken' are salvageable with relatively little time/money invested....

[AJAX22]

Some people aren't as fanatical about firearms as you seem to be. Some people downright don't care, as you seem to.

Whatever happened to being free enough to decide whether to scrap a decades old POS gun or put even more money into it and obsess like a madman?

I'm glad a lot of people are turning in guns because then only the true enthusiasts with knowledge of safety and so on will retain them. And as long as you have one, why do you care if someone else does or doesn't?

Live and let live.

People are perfectly free to do whatever the heck they want with their guns.

If they decide they want to get rid of them they should START by offering them up for sale to someone who may be able to salvage the gun and keep it in circulation.

Using tax dollars (or 'tax exempt donations from charitable organizations') to turn firearms into rebar does not help anyone and certainly does not serve to keep Americans armed and defensible.

Playing the anti's game only builds up their numbers and makes them better able to come after your guns the next time around.

You're right, I have mine....

I have all the guns I could possibly need.... and enough for all my relatives, and my friends... and most of my friends families...

However, If a man does not have the means to defend himself or his family I will give him a gun (possibly not the most valuable firearm I own, but something that goes bang), ammunition, and I will teach him how to use it.

A 'true enthusiasts' vote is no more valuable than that of a newbie who doesn't know any better... and the life of a man who is not an enthusiast deserves to be protected just as much as the most die hard gun collector.

I care that other Americans are armed because I want them to take responsibility for their own safety and the safety of their families, I want them to have the means to defend themselves against crime, tyranny and abuse. I want them to have one because without a firearm, all of our other enumerated rights are not worth the parchment they are written on.

I want Americans to have as many guns as possible, because the more of them we have in our society, the less likely it is that we will be called upon to use them.

I want Americans to have as many guns as possible because if the day ever comes that I need to stand shoulder to shoulder with them and fight for my country, my rights, or my freedom I want them to have the means and ability to stand alongside and not cower in the shadows.

Nothing would please me more than to never have to use a firearm for anything but a range toy and a wall ornament. But never forget that the rifle hanging over the fireplace does more to secure your rights as a free man than any other inanimate object.

It is the concrete manifestation of a free mans ability to say "NO"

[Crusader]

I have no problem with gun buy backs. If a person doesn't want a firearm, and instead want $100 or groceries or what have you, that's fine.

What I do have a problem with is the government taking these gun buyback programs and saying "Hey, look how many guns we are taking off the streets. Look how much safer you are now that we are protecting you."
That is what pisses me off.

[jamespres2001]

I have no problem with gun buy backs. If a person doesn't want a firearm, and instead want $100 or groceries or what have you, that's fine.

What I do have a problem with is the government taking these gun buyback programs and saying "Hey, look how many guns we are taking off the streets. Look how much safer you are now that we are protecting you."
That is what pisses me off.

I Agree. I would like to think it could be done... but I have little hope.
I do like the fact that some people have many guns to defend the Country or the people. I do like the idea of a well regulated militia a la 2nd A.
As I stated the Buy Back would be to eliminate the danger of a misused gun not a well regulated or safe gun or guns. I do like the idea of arming the weak or innocent people in dangerous areas.

[Draankol]

I think gun buy backs are total political fluff. Consider the type of person who’d give up a firearm for a $50.00 gift card to where-ever: is this the kind of person that would use a firearm to defend themselves or their family? Are they the type to stand shoulder to shoulder w/ another American and fight for freedom in the face of tyranny? Are they the kind of person you’d even want next to you? Or are they most likely the type of person who happily relies on the gov’t for protection, even in the face of the fact that when seconds count, the police are only minutes away?

These are still Americans and they are still entitled to their rights, and in as much as it is your right to own a firearm and possess the ability to defend yourself, it is likewise your right to not own a firearm and not possess the ability to defend yourself. They are equal executions of the same right as protected under the 2nd amendment.

Buying a gun back from a person who’d no sooner use it to defend themselves or commit a crime, who’d never use it to defend their family and has likely never used it at all or in recent years is really nothing more than politicians and attention seekers to hold up a banner and say “Hey, look at what we’re doing to make America safer!” When in point of fact, if concern for the safety of America domestically was truly on the agenda of our “leaders” many other changes would be instituted prior to collecting up guns that see no use. But gun buy backs are easy, quick, and get sheep to vote for you because you’re doing something to save America. Education, gun owning voters do not buy into this nonsense, and we are the minority.

I value the safety of my family, and my country. I own guns and keep a .45 ACP pistol handy in my home at all times. Though I live deep within Orange County, in recent years a home invasion robbery took place on the very neighborhood street I grew up on and still live. The owner/victim now has two large dogs in his home, but I have not spoken to him about guns, as I feel it is his responsibility to defend himself. That said though, had I known what was going on during the incident, I surely would have intervened, hang the consequences. As a former US Marine, I value action in times of crisis, but many Americans do not. They value the idea of someone coming to save them, just look at the Katrina mess. Those people are still Americans and they must factor into the equation, even if it befuddles me to do so, and it does.

To the point, gun buy backs are a show, nothing more. You won’t find any Wilson Combat’s or Ed Brown’s in the pile, nor will you find any decent ARs or FALs. You’ll see a collection of rusty, ratted out shotguns, .22, .25, .32, .38 pistols, a few old hunting rifles, etc. Once in a while, some ex-gangsta might turn in his AK, but from what I have heard, not one single Bought Back gun has ever been linked to a crime. I am looking for proof of that statement if anyone here knows of any. So pay no attention to the show. Train yourself and those upon whom you can have an effect. Keep your piece handy when at home and carry one with you if you have a legal right to do so. There may only be one incident in your life when you need a gun to defend yourself, and if you don’t have it, the amount of incidents of all natures in your life may very sharply and suddenly decline.

[bohoki]

they are amnesty turn in events with incentives

often they have people turn in the gun on one table give you a slip and then you go to another for your prize and if they are out you dont get your gun back