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  • rod
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 2245

    question

    If I get a barrel with a 1/12 twist, can I still shoot cheap ammo (223)?
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    chiefcrash
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    • Jul 2006
    • 3408

    you should be good to fire M193 ammo (55gr FMJBT bullets)

    that twist rate will not stableize some ammo (like SS-109 - 62gr)

    http://www.ammo-oracle.com/body.htm <--- good info there
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    • #3
      bu-bye
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 2835

      yeah 1/12 is really only good for 55gr and lower. Many of the bench shooters like using 1/12. Why I don't know, but they have told me that anything above 55gr and its shoots like crap.
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      • #4
        JPglee1
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 3025

        Originally posted by rod
        If I get a barrel with a 1/12 twist, can I still shoot cheap ammo (223)?
        55gr and lower, yes

        I'd rather have a faster twist, like 1/9 and shoot 55gr FMJ, then they explode inside soft targets out to about 150yds, lol.



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        • #5
          rod
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 2245

          Thanks. I'm building something for long range shooting from a bench and wasn't too sure on the twist issue.
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          • #6
            five.five-six
            CGN Contributor
            • May 2006
            • 34946

            Originally posted by rod
            Thanks. I'm building something for long range shooting from a bench and wasn't too sure on the twist issue.
            long range get faster twist 1:8 or 1:7 and run 62 grain ammo

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              Fjold
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Oct 2005
              • 23087

              Originally posted by five.five-six
              long range get faster twist 1:8 or 1:7 and run 62 grain ammo
              The more common 1:9" twist will stabilize the 70 grain and lighter bullets. Pay the extra for the 1:8" or 1:7" twist if you're going to shoot heavier than 70 grain bullets.
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                rod
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 2245

                I guess I'm a little confused....ok, a lot confused. I was thinking that a 1/12 twist would provide more spin and stabilize a bullet better than a 1/8 or 1/9 twist. Am I backwards?
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                  paradox
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                  • Jan 2006
                  • 3588

                  Originally posted by rod
                  I guess I'm a little confused....ok, a lot confused. I was thinking that a 1/12 twist would provide more spin and stabilize a bullet better than a 1/8 or 1/9 twist. Am I backwards?
                  You are backwards.

                  1/12 = one revolution every 12"
                  1/7 = one revolution every 7"

                  Therefore, for a given length of barrel, the 1/7 twist will spin a bullet at much higher rpms than the same bullet shot out of a 1/12.

                  A faster twist is needed for longer projectiles. Longer projectiles are needed to make heavier bullets in a given caliber and material.
                  Last edited by paradox; 11-29-2006, 10:49 AM.
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                    rod
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 2245

                    That makes perfect sense. Thanks for making me smarter.

                    I was under the impression that 1/7 meant that there were 7 twists for every inch.
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                      chiefcrash
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                      • Jul 2006
                      • 3408

                      Originally posted by rod
                      That makes perfect sense. Thanks for making me smarter.

                      I was under the impression that 1/7 meant that there were 7 twists for every inch.
                      at that rate, the bore would be THREADED, not rifled...
                      Originally posted by Kestryll
                      we can not nor should not dismiss or discount my theory that in the dark of night you molest sea anemones by candlelight.
                      Originally posted by TKM
                      Show me on this 1st Amendment bobble-head doll where the mods touched you.
                      Originally posted by Click Boom
                      It is clear from this thread that citadel grad was the gunman, and Oswald his patsy.

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                      • #12
                        rod
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 2245

                        Yeah, I know. Kinda silly isn't it. I'm smarter now though.
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