Question about Fixed Magazine AR 15

[SkyHawk]

In regards to the Juggernaut grip I'm going to stick with it because It's just a risk I'm willing to take and after research I never heard of anybody actually getting in trouble with that grip.

Well someone always has to be first, hopefully it wont be you. Good luck...

[Scratch705]

Well someone always has to be first, hopefully it wont be you. Good luck...

isn't literally everyone going to be first with tons of the compliance parts that are made for CA use? since most haven't gone to court for them to prove legality except for monsterman and thorsden who were specifically named in a court case as being compliant per CADOJ?

[tabascoz28]

And AKHammr battle grip.

[SkyHawk]

isn't literally everyone going to be first with tons of the compliance parts that are made for CA use? since most haven't gone to court for them to prove legality except for monsterman and thorsden who were specifically named in a court case as being compliant per CADOJ?

Most "compliance" parts don't flagrantly ignore the law, but sadly some do. I don't worry about the parts I use, but there are plenty I would never use. I have a lot to lose - YMMV if your risk/reward calculus is different.

[DDM4556]

You have been incorrectly informed. What you're saying only applies if the gun is a RAW, as others have mentioned.

If they took a second look, say they confiscated the rifle for a reason not the registered owners fault, then they take a second look at the AFL and find out it shouldbe a maglock rifle. May initially be able to find that out with a text or radio call.

[Homies69]

There are 2 legal configurations for new long gun owners: featureless or fixed mag. Apparently you have a fixed mag setup, which means you can have all the features you want (except grenade launcher, I think that's still illegal).

Which means you can use any choice of grip you want. Be it the standard AR grip, or any number of more comfortable aftermarket grips from Magpul, Hogue, etc. You can even- if you want- use a featureless grip. However, there's no reason to gimp down your rifle doing so. People with featureless rifles use these non-pistol grips because they are the the least bad option, in exchange they get to freely drop mags. However, no one will say that these non-pistol grips are good. That's their compromise; funky grip but drop mags like the way the gun was intended. And use 30 round mags if obtained during Freedom Week.

Likewise, since you have a fixed mag setup, there's no reason to chose a sub-optimal non-grip. Get a real pistol grip. It's legal for a fixed mag setup. And far more comfortable. That's the compromise for fixed mag; it looks and feels like a free state gun, but there's extra steps to change magazines. And 10 rounds only.

I've already taken my pistol grip off yesterday and thereafter added the Juggernaut "featureless" grip.

My firearm came with a muzzle brake so I'm thinking that from here I'll just proceed with pinning in my stock and removing my (I don't remember what they call this but I think it's) the barrel foregrip that originally came with my rifle.

That mag release is just a holy grail to me.

Anyways I'm excited!!!

First time firearms owner and I'm going to the range on Saturday!!!!!!!!!

[DDM4556]

Congrats OP.

Daniel Defense rifles are among the finest you can buy. Enjoy!

I've already taken my pistol grip off yesterday and thereafter added the Juggernaut "featureless" grip.

My firearm came with a muzzle brake so I'm thinking that from here I'll just proceed with pinning in my stock and removing my (I don't remember what they call this but I think it's) the barrel foregrip that originally came with my rifle.

That mag release is just a holy grail to me.

Anyways I'm excited!!!

First time firearms owner and I'm going to the range on Saturday!!!!!!!!!

[OlderThanDirt]

There is also this fugly but functional grip.

[tabascoz28]

That grip makes it hard to get it back to standby for storage or running or changing mags. My hands are strong enough for that fin grip.

[SamGoldstein]

First of all, that juggernaut grip is sketchy, legally speaking IMO. Bad choice. We have threads around here on what happens to people who use quasi-legal featureless grips - they get their rifle confiscated or worse. That grip still allows the web of your hand to be below the top of the trigger. That makes it illegal if also used with a removable mag.

Next, in order to be featureless you also have to pin the stock so it cannot move, and remove the flash hider.

Then and only then can you remove the fixed magazine mechanism and change it to a standard mag release.

Without knowing exactly what the current config of your rifle is, from tip to tail, and without knowing exactly what mag lock you have now, it is hard to give you any more advice. But I would take that grip back, and buy a Thordsen stock or a Sparrow grip or a good fin grip if you can stand having a fin.


More about the juggernaut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alS2cVFHIKM

The youtube video is just an opinion. It's not been tested in court.

[SamGoldstein]

isn't literally everyone going to be first with tons of the compliance parts that are made for CA use? since most haven't gone to court for them to prove legality except for monsterman and thorsden who were specifically named in a court case as being compliant per CADOJ?

Exactly

[Peahi2]

You can't legally convert a fix mag rifle to a featureless. That's my understanding, a featureless can never accept a magazine capacity of more than 10 rounds, freedom week and grandfathered mags are legal to use, but never in a rifle that originally had a maglock.

WTH. This thread is hell. You shouldn't be commenting if you don't know what you are talking about.

[tony270]

WTH. This thread is hell. You shouldn't be commenting if you don't know what you are talking about.

That's because nobody knows dip. I said that had been posted during freedom week, so you shut the hell up.

[NATO762]

That's because nobody knows dip. I said that had been posted during freedom week, so you shut the hell up.

[Peahi2]

That's because nobody knows dip. I said that had been posted during freedom week, so you shut the hell up.

Wait a minute? You are telling me "shut the hell up." You were the one posting incorrect information.

Sorry if I offended you.