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  • whitewater1914
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    • Dec 2020
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    Only go 29 in a 30 round mag?

    A guy on YouTube does daily videos and says he only loads a 30 round mag with 29. Is that to save the mag spring or ?

    Thanks for any insight or knowledge.
    Last edited by whitewater1914; 03-16-2021, 10:47 AM.
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    NATO762
    Member
    • Apr 2019
    • 404

    Weak thumbs.

    Get 32 rounders?

    It's either to save the spring (a myth) or some rifles can get jammed up with that last round (internet rumors). So why does DD make 32 rounders?
    Last edited by NATO762; 03-16-2021, 5:32 AM.
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    • #3
      Scratch705
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      • May 2009
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      One reason I read about was to make loading on a closed bolt easier.
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      • #4
        smle-man
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        • Jan 2007
        • 10602

        Originally posted by NATO762
        Weak thumbs.

        Get 32 rounders?

        It's either to save the spring (a myth) or some rifles can get jammed up with that last round (internet rumors). So why does DD make 32 rounders?
        We only loaded 18 rounds in our 20 round M14 and M16 magazines. Why? Because that's what the senior NCOs said should be done and they had been there and done it.

        A magazine loaded to full capacity may cause some drag on the bolt for the first couple of rounds, especially if the weapon is dirty from extended firing. That drag might be enough to hamper proper cycling.

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        • #5
          Uncivil Engineer
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2016
          • 1101

          Originally posted by smle-man
          We only loaded 18 rounds in our 20 round M14 and M16 magazines. Why? Because that's what the senior NCOs said should be done and they had been there and done it.



          A magazine loaded to full capacity may cause some drag on the bolt for the first couple of rounds, especially if the weapon is dirty from extended firing. That drag might be enough to hamper proper cycling.
          Does our yearly cause drag on the bolt or failure to feed. It would be interesting to see if the added friction of more rounds in addition to the spring and follower being bottomed out cause failures to feed or pressure on the bolt.

          No matter how you look at it we are talking about working around crappy magazines.

          I saw load yours to capacity. Use a loader if needed. Do some mag dumps and see if you can get a failure. If you can take a look at the springs and follower.

          In a free state I would day chuck the magazines and replace them with good ones but that isn't always an option. You might need to smooth out the bodies or follower. Or replace a spring.

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          • #6
            jarhead714
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2012
            • 9542

            I only do 25 or so because that’s what the people who taught me how to shoot said.

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            • #7
              dousan
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 1291

              It's to load on a closed bolt
              Seen vickers do 1 less on pistol mags (old video) and wps recently-ish with ar mags

              You do you. Personal preference.

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              • #8
                NorCalRT
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 1327

                De-loading a mag can make it easier to load on a closed bolt, get used to smacking the bottom of mags to make sure it is seated versus de-load them IMO. It can also prevent drag on the bolt which can cause jams, IMO a clean properly lubed rifle should not have this problem. If you are in a climate where you need to depend on a rifle that is dirty, then de-loading is an option, for most of us proper rifle care and function is better option.

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                • #9
                  snacks
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 939

                  Originally posted by Scratch705
                  One reason I read about was to make loading on a closed bolt easier.
                  this the reason i do it with my metal mags. i usually download to 28 easier for me to count my rounds when firing.

                  Counting wouldn't really matter if you do your admin reloads routinely. I tend to forget either one lol

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                  • #10
                    DaveInOroValley
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 8967

                    Originally posted by Uncivil Engineer
                    Does our yearly cause drag on the bolt or failure to feed. It would be interesting to see if the added friction of more rounds in addition to the spring and follower being bottomed out cause failures to feed or pressure on the bolt.

                    No matter how you look at it we are talking about working around crappy magazines.

                    I saw load yours to capacity. Use a loader if needed. Do some mag dumps and see if you can get a failure. If you can take a look at the springs and follower.

                    In a free state I would day chuck the magazines and replace them with good ones but that isn't always an option. You might need to smooth out the bodies or follower. Or replace a spring.
                    Doing mag dumps lately is like burning 20.00 bills in the fireplace.
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                    • #11
                      Citadelgrad87
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                      • Mar 2007
                      • 16966

                      If you load 30 in the aluminum usgi ar mags, its difficult to seat a mag with the bolt forward.

                      Thats pretty much the only reason, and Larry Vickers confirmed this in a class.
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                      • #12
                        Maulerrr
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                        CGN Contributor
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 2058

                        All of my usgi mags get downloaded 1 round. Those can be a real ***** to seat in the rifle. Pmags and other mags are easy though.

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                        • #13
                          deadcoyote
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 4002

                          I have experienced drag issues with fully loaded mags. I typically keep a few 40 round mags on hand with 35 in each. All my other mags are in a safe empty.
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                          • #14
                            ARDude
                            Veteran Member
                            • May 2006
                            • 2723

                            That's why i only load 8 in my 10 round mags. Plus if you load them to 10 you're getting really close to 11.
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                            • #15
                              whitewater1914
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                              • Dec 2020
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