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  • butlers
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 754

    S&W Shield Plus 10+1

    Wow.




    I know the S&W Shield 2.0 isn't on the roster (even though the original is), but can we dare hope that the Shield Plus gets on the roster...?

    Here's a review from The Firearm Blog (TFB):



    The CEOs of MagGuts, Hyve, and Xtech are weeping tonight.
    "The nation that will insist on drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking done by cowards." William Francis Butler (not Thucydides)
  • #2
    SkyHawk
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Sep 2012
    • 23531

    No, will not be on roster - abandon all hope.
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    • #3
      9Cal_OC
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2019
      • 6703

      What’s the difference here?

      Do they have a non-single stack magazine? That’d be the M&P Compact?
      Freedom isn't free...

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      • #4
        butlers
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 754

        I'm not sure, but if I had to guess, I would imagine that the S&W Shield Plus' magazine is similar to the magazine used in the Sig P365, Springfield Hellcat, etc.

        Essentially gives S&W a "middleweight" option:

        M&P Shield 1.0/2.0: single stack (7+1)
        M&P Shield Plus: in between (10+1)
        M&P Compact: double stack (12+1)

        Not unlike the Glock:

        Glock 43: single stack (6+1)
        Glock 43x: in between (10+1) (slimmer but taller)
        Glock 26: double stack (10+1) (chunkier but shorter)
        "The nation that will insist on drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking done by cowards." William Francis Butler (not Thucydides)

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        • #5
          champu
          CGN Contributor
          • Nov 2013
          • 1981

          Originally posted by butlers
          ...but can we dare hope that the Shield Plus gets on the roster...?


          Are you asking this as a serious question? Please tell me someone who has been on calguns since 2012 is not asking this as a serious question.

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          • #6
            butlers
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 754

            Originally posted by SkyHawk
            No, will not be on roster - abandon all hope.
            I know....

            Originally posted by champu


            Are you asking this as a serious question? Please tell me someone who has been on calguns since 2012 is not asking this as a serious question.
            Not a serious question.

            Smith & Wesson is one of the few companies willing to "play ball" with unfriendly states (e.g. they make California and Massachusetts-compliant versions of their firearms), and yes, the 1.0 is one of the few "new" firearms from the past decade to make the roster.



            But I know that Gov Newsom is more anti-2A than Gov Brown, that the State Assembly/Senate is virtually a single party legislature, and that the changes in the federal government make increased restrictions more likely.
            "The nation that will insist on drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking done by cowards." William Francis Butler (not Thucydides)

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            • #7
              Weezard
              Member
              • Jan 2016
              • 122

              Yes, it's a competitor to the Sig 365, Hellcat, etc.

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              • #8
                Lonestargrizzly
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2015
                • 6504

                If I didnt completely dislike the shield I would consider it.
                Id rather buy one after someone has fired 1,000 rounds so the springs and buttons and mags would be worn in lol.

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                • #9
                  Skip_Dog
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 2656

                  Interesting. Thanks for posting.

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                  • #10
                    smittty
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 6264

                    And next week there will be another new gun, so what’s the point?

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                    • #11
                      WartHog
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 4639

                      With the Strike Industries EMP Extensions, I already have a Shield 10+1 that's been 100% reliable in over 1000 rounds.
                      Originally posted by Sierra57
                      Civil War 2.0 - If it comes to pass, the America-hating Leftists will have brought it upon themselves. I value Freedom more than their sorry lives and the form of Governance they espouse, which offers no Freedom and complete servitude to the State.
                      "We have four boxes with which to defend our Freedoms: the Soap box, the Ballot box, the Jury box, and the Cartridge box" - Ed Howdershelt

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                      • #12
                        mooner760HD
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 617

                        I like my shield, I would like to get 10rd mags for it.
                        NRA Life Member

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                        • #13
                          butlers
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 754

                          Originally posted by smittty
                          And next week there will be another new gun, so what’s the point?
                          I like to think this isn't another one of those "look at all the cool things we can't have in California" posts (yes, those can be annoying).

                          For better or for worse, the M&P Shield is very popular here in California, precisely because it's one of the few CCW-appropriate pistols released in the past 10 years that's on the state roster. Sample size of one, but in both my initial and renewal CCW classes, those who carried on-roster pistols (about half the class) invariably chose the Shield (with the rest carrying some off-roster Glock, Ruger, or Sig).

                          Because it's so popular and because the competitors (e.g. Glock 43/43X, Ruger EC9/LC9/LC9s, Sig P365, Springfield Hellcat, etc) are off-roster, I know that many of us California Shield owners have been looking into upgrades. Just the other week, I started doing some serious comparison shopping between the MagGuts +1/+2 magazine springs and Hyve/Strike Industries/Xtech's +2 magazine extensions. Almost pulled the trigger, but then decided to hold off for Memorial Day sales.

                          But then this comes along, and it gets me thinking. The Shield Plus is compatible with my existing holsters, weaponlight, and sights (i.e. I've already invested in the Shield line) -- but it comes standard with 10+1 magazines. So doing the math, is it really worth the ~$25/magazine to upgrade my current Shield 1.0 magazines, or should I start researching the various ways CalGunners get their hands on off-roster pistols?

                          In other words, the release of the Shield Plus is sort of a paradigm shift for me, and I figured it might be of interest to others in a similar boat (i.e. a Shield owner living in California who wants to upgrade magazine capacity). This is why I posted about the M&P Shield Plus, but not the Ruger Max 9 (another slim-line 10+1 pistol that was unveiled yesterday).
                          Last edited by butlers; 03-16-2021, 3:54 PM.
                          "The nation that will insist on drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking done by cowards." William Francis Butler (not Thucydides)

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                          • #14
                            butlers
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 754

                            Originally posted by mooner760HD
                            I like my shield, I would like to get 10rd mags for it.
                            From what I've researched, you have four options that will turn your 7-round Shield 1.0/2.0 magazine into a 9-round magazine, and your 8-round magazine into a 10-round magazine:

                            - MagGuts +2 magazine spring
                            - Hyve +2 magazine extension
                            - Strike Industries +2 magazine extension
                            - Xtech +2 magazine extension

                            If there are more, I'm happy to be corrected.
                            "The nation that will insist on drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking done by cowards." William Francis Butler (not Thucydides)

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                            • #15
                              smittty
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 6264

                              OK I looked up the specs to try to see reason why the fuss,

                              shield plus width = 1.1"
                              shield width = 0.95"
                              G26 width = 1.0"
                              CW9 width = 0.91"

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