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  • PanzerAce
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 4262

    Differences?

    What is the difference between DuraCoating and Parkerizing, in terms of protection/look? Also, how would I go about doing this to my own AK, since I really dont want to shell out any money to get it done.
    "There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Please use in that order"
    -Ed Howdershelt


    Originally posted by hossb7
    HK is the best $500 gun you can get for $1,000
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    NeoWeird
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 3342

    DuraCoating a spray on finish. As with most of the spray on finishes it is most likely enamel, cermaic, etc based so that as it hardens it creates a nice hard surface finish. Some will be softer like spray paint, others will be harder.

    Pakerizing is a surface finish obtained through a chemical reaction, kind of like anodizing for aluminum. Surface finishes obtained via chemical reactions will generally be harder, last longer, and won't chip/crack like a spray finish can. They also 'build up' at an even rate where as spray finishes can glob, run, etc unless you are careful or know what you are doing.

    In general, Pakerizing would be a better finish, however DuraCoating would be cheaper. I haven't used DuraCoat yet, but I have heard that once it is cured it is very strong and very durable. On a budget, if you are simply going for looks (like you don't want mismatched parts and want them all the same color, or you don't want a bare metal receiver with the blue metal parts) then DuraCoat would probably be the easiest thing to do. If you want all around firearm protection, both inside and out, with minimal change in dimensions, then Pakerizing is the way to go; just keep in mind that it requires a set up to perform, including a non-ferious tank, heat source, the chemicals, etc. You can do it yourself, but for a single job it really isn't worth it.
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    • #3
      m1371
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 1118

      Originally posted by PanzerAce
      What is the difference between DuraCoating and Parkerizing, in terms of protection/look? Also, how would I go about doing this to my own AK, since I really dont want to shell out any money to get it done.
      DuraCoat is paint. Doesn't matter what anyone else says or all the hype that goes along with it. It's paint. I've found that Krylon works as a great field expedient substitute.

      Parkerizing is a chemical finish that literally etches itself into the surface of the metal. The advantage it has is that it creates a rough surface which retains oils & lubricants that you put on the firearm to protect it.

      More detailed info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkerizing

      A weapon that has been Parkerized (or some similar type of finishing) will actually "take" DuraCoat better than bare metal.
      Learning without thought is labor lost, thought without learning is perilous. -Foamy

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      • #4
        PanzerAce
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 4262

        so would you guys say that it was worth the money to get it Parkerized then?
        "There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Please use in that order"
        -Ed Howdershelt


        Originally posted by hossb7
        HK is the best $500 gun you can get for $1,000

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        • #5
          JPglee1
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 3025

          Originally posted by m1371
          DuraCoat is paint. Doesn't matter what anyone else says or all the hype that goes along with it. It's paint. I've found that Krylon works as a great field expedient substitute.

          Parkerizing is a chemical finish that literally etches itself into the surface of the metal. The advantage it has is that it creates a rough surface which retains oils & lubricants that you put on the firearm to protect it.

          More detailed info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkerizing

          A weapon that has been Parkerized (or some similar type of finishing) will actually "take" DuraCoat better than bare metal.

          Duracoat is sherwin williams 2-part epoxy. Thats all it is, but made super expensive cuz its re-packaged into smaller containers for "gun owners"


          Go buy some SW 2 part and you'll see.



          JP

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          • #6
            m1371
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 1118

            Originally posted by JPglee1
            Duracoat is sherwin williams 2-part epoxy. Thats all it is, but made super expensive cuz its re-packaged into smaller containers for "gun owners"


            Go buy some SW 2 part and you'll see.



            JP
            Don't need to.

            I've got Krylon in various colors.
            Learning without thought is labor lost, thought without learning is perilous. -Foamy

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            • #7
              m1371
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 1118

              Originally posted by PanzerAce
              so would you guys say that it was worth the money to get it Parkerized then?
              What's the finish on it now?
              Learning without thought is labor lost, thought without learning is perilous. -Foamy

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              • #8
                PanzerAce
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 4262

                Originally posted by m1371
                What's the finish on it now?
                whatever the default Romy G and NDS-3 finishes are
                "There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Please use in that order"
                -Ed Howdershelt


                Originally posted by hossb7
                HK is the best $500 gun you can get for $1,000

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                • #9
                  m1371
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 1118

                  Originally posted by PanzerAce
                  whatever the default Romy G and NDS-3 finishes are
                  I honestly have NO idea what kind of finishes are on those. Could be a phosphate finish, could be baked on enamel, etc.

                  Going to default to someone with more AK know-how than mine because I have no idea how well DuraCoat would adhere.
                  Learning without thought is labor lost, thought without learning is perilous. -Foamy

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                  • #10
                    grammaton76
                    Administrator
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 9511

                    I think it may be a light coat of bluing. I know that rust WILL develop on the untreated NDS receivers, just from ambient humidity. I discovered this when I was going through my receiver box (probably about 12 receivers in there), and spent the rest of the day removing rust from them, and then coating them with CLP for protection until I work out just how they SHOULD be coated.

                    So, you should regard the NDS receivers as UNPROTECTED from rust, until you have either painted or parked them.
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                    • #11
                      Charliegone
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 6099

                      Originally posted by JPglee1
                      Duracoat is sherwin williams 2-part epoxy. Thats all it is, but made super expensive cuz its re-packaged into smaller containers for "gun owners"


                      Go buy some SW 2 part and you'll see.



                      JP
                      Dude...I've tried searching on the net for it, but can't seem to find it. I have duracoat and it works well. If I can get it for cheaper..hell I'd buy it.


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